Jan Witold Lipiński 26/5/58

Discussion in 'Postwar' started by noggin1969, Sep 1, 2019.

  1. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    Any details on the above Polish pilot ex 315 Sqn. Jan Witold Lipiński - Jan Linden Lipinski on the headstone 26/5/58. Buried behind the CWGC , Newark on Trent Cemetery plot next to the same style graves of Jozef Jeka 15/4/1958 and Jan Piotr Izycki 13/4/1958. Both Jeka and Izychi despite what their families were told at the time had been killed 13/4/1958 while engaged in an operation to support Indonesian rebels fighting the regime of President Sukarno , CIA Op Haik . On 13th April 1958 Jeka was piloting a B-26 from the CIA HQ at Mapanget airfield, Manado. One engine failed on takeoff and the aircraft stalled into the ground, killing both men and a Minahasen ( Indonesian ethnic group )radio operator. I'm just wondering if Lipinski was on similar mission as his last Polish unit listed is 315 Sqn which flew P51 Mustangs , another covert aircraft flown by the CIA in Indonesia. He's reported to have died in Germany but then Jeka and Izycki were reported to have died in the US and Denmark.
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hopefully will help

    UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014
    Name: Josef Jeka
    Register Type: Burial
    Death Date: abt 1958
    Burial or Cremation Date: 26 Apr 1958
    Burial or Cremation Place: Nottinghamshire, England
    This record is linked to - Burial records, cremation records, grave maps, genealogy and ancestry at Deceased Online

    England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
    Name: Joseph Jeka
    [Josef Jeka]
    Death Date: 13 Apr 1958
    Death Place: Hertfordshire, Hertford, England
    Probate Date: 13 Aug 1958
    Probate Registry: London, England

    Think you need to read this file
    32858_625988_3365-00074.jpg

    Will look for the others

    TD
     
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  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014
    Name: Jan Piotr Izycki
    Register Type: Burial
    Death Date: abt 1958
    Burial or Cremation Date: 26 Apr 1958
    Burial or Cremation Place: Nottinghamshire, England
    Burial records, cremation records, grave maps, genealogy and ancestry at Deceased Online

    England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
    Name: Jan Piotr Izycki
    Death Date: 13 Apr 1958
    Death Place: Middlesex, England
    Probate Date: 5 Nov 1958
    Probate Registry: London, England
    32858_625988_3365-00029.jpg

    States the same as Probate above

    TD
     
  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Re Jan Lipinski - I as yet cannot find anything on him, there are a few close calls but none that match details you have given. Is it possible to obatin a photograph of his headstone, also perhaps as with the other 2, there should somewhere be a record of his burial, maybe a visit there to check and see what their records show or the details they may provide

    TD
     
  5. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    I've put a request in to the council to get the burial detail. If it's the same as Jeka and Izycki it'll be a family burial at no cost. With the reference to their deaths at the Air Test Area Washington D.C , this is the administration area for CAT Civilian Air Transport , the front company for the CIA to move aircraft into the area later became Air America in Vietnam and Cambodia.
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    The closest I have been able to get so far is this tree, but he would have been 52 when he died in 1958

    Jan Lipiński
    1906–
    BIRTH 23 JUN 1906 • Koprzywnica
    DEATH Unknown
    Birth 23/06/1906 Koprzywnica Swietokrzyskie Poland
    Father Władysław Lipiński (Born 1864)
    Mother Bronisława Czechowska (Born 1868)
    This is the man born 1906 - nothing shows he had children
    [​IMG]

    TD
     
  7. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

    782547 W/O Jan Witold Lipinski 315 Squadron born Warsaw, Poland 13.08.1919
    Lipiński Jan Witold - Krzystek's List

    Book on 315 Squadron: Matusiak, Wojtek with Robert Gretzyngier and Piotr Wiśniewski. 315 Squadron. Sandomierz, Poland/Redbourn, UK: Mushroom Model publications, 2004
     

    Attached Files:

  8. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    Just done a FOIR with the CIA didn't know you could , not sure how many lists it might put me on ;) but I'll see if they've got anything for the public domain.
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Ah sorry - need to mention this to Admin as you may be sucked out of the forum and with nothing available to fill the gaseous gap you will leave behind -- help

    The end is nigh :omg::salut::lol:

    Be interesting to see what results - well done sir

    TD
     
  10. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    The council have got back to me about the burial and according to their records a Rudolph J Floda is buried there. Ran that name


    through the Krystek's list and no hit on that name. So it's starting to look odd.


    [​IMG]
     
  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014
    Name: Rudolph J Floda
    Register Type: Burial
    Death Date: abt 1954
    Burial or Cremation Date: 7 Jul 1954
    Burial or Cremation Place: Nottinghamshire, England

    TD
     
  12. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    Yes got that thanks TD , but that is the only entry for that name I can find
     
  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Me to - very odd - there was a spurious link to a Rudolf Ericsson

    Rudolf Ericsson was born on month day 1888, to Carl Erik Eriksson and Albertina Eriksson (born Larsdotter).
    Carl was born on December 27 1843, in Nyköping.
    Albertina was born on January 1 1853, in Floda.
    Rudolf had 2 siblings: Elias Eriksson and one other sibling.
    Rudolf married Maria Amalia Ericsson (born Olsson).
    Maria was born on August 24 1893, in Kvillinge.
    His occupation was occupation.
    Rudolf passed away on month day 1954, at age 66 at death place.
    He was buried at burial place.
    https://www.myheritage.com/names/rudolf_eriksson

    Maybe a Rudolf Ericsson (Eriksson) from Floda in Sweden who for some reason changed his surname - all a bit odd

    TD
     
  14. Bronka

    Bronka New Member

    I am a new member. I found this thread and was surprised to see Jan Witold Lipinski is in it! He was my mother's 1st cousin. His father and my grandfather are brothers. I have been trying to reseach him for quite a while now. My only information on him is from Krzystek's List. Interested to know if the person who sent a FOIA request to the CIA ever responded?? I had heard along the way that after the war he was flying for the CIA. Another person gave me some information that his name is on Hasinski-Adams book on graduates of the school for underage cadets of the Air Force. He had made copies of the pages and downloaded to a disk, which is now damaged, while writing a book on the Polish pilots. Anyone here know anything regarding that book? I am desperately trying to find any information possible on him. Thanks in advance for any information you have to share! Bronka
     
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  15. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    Hi Bronka , I did receive a phone call from the CIA Archive , Jan Witold Lipinski was not listed lost on CIA Op Haik. I kept the question fairly specific as it saves search time and costs. If you know he was with the CIA he should have a file that you can ask for under FOIR with them. They are very open now about such things according to the conversation I had with the archivist.

    How to File a FOIA Request | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)

    I also tried on the 12oclockhigh website

    Jan Witold Lipiński 26/5/58 - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

    Shaun
     
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  16. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

  17. Bronka

    Bronka New Member

    Thank you Shaun I appreciate your response!
     
  18. noggin1969

    noggin1969 Well-Known Member

    Hi Bronka , I have requested info again from the archives , this research I had put on the back burner while busy with other research. Jeka , Izycki and Lipinski are buried next to each other in the exact style graves. These are just outside the CWGC plot here at Newark. Like the others they have a lantern placed on them at All Souls and a poppy cross on Remembrance day. If you do find anything more out please let me know and I'll add it to the Friends of Newark Cemetery archive.
     

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