King's Own Scottish Borderers

The French writing shortly says: king's own scottish borderers, threws ecossais, B.E.F. 39-40, D-Day, Arnhem, ww2

 

Edoardo,
Ask one of the moderators to edit the title of your post to include FA Rumball. It may get picked up by a relative?
Guy

 

Eduardo, Another thought............. are we all being mislead into thinking that this is a KOSB officer because of the trews ? The jacket was made as a bespoke item, apparently in 1945 by a well known Scottish tailor. Yet the trousers are a stock item mass produced by the Rego Clothier Ltd. I am not sure that the two items fit together. You can still find new and unworn trews made by Rego for sale on ebay.Maybe someone has put the trews with the jacket to make a complete outfit. It might help if you look at the jacket on its own and research that via the tailor who would have made a bespoke item for Major/ Captain Rumball. Is the wear on both items similar? Does the chest measurement of the jacket seem right for the tall man who wore the trews? If you ignore the KOSB connection maybe this will help approach the research with a more open mind. If an officer went into the high class tailor for a jacket, I am sure he would have had a pair of trew/trousers made at the same time and that thewe would have carried the same tailors label as the jacket.

 

The trousers fit with the jacket, similar size, similar fit. The problem is that the officer results not enlisted in any regiment of the British Army in 1940...

 

Eduardo, OK so the sizes match but we are still left with the possibility that the trews were not made personally for the owner of the jacket. I think you need to try the jacket maker and see if they keep any records. They are a well known company and may well be interested in the jacket if you email them a photo.

 

I sent an e mail to the makers of the jacket, but they haven't no more records about those years...

 

Well, I can only suggest getting on all the social media etc and asking if anyone has any knowledge of a F.A Rumball. Post no 30 shows that there was a male whose dates fit a potential owner. I have found that there are two people on the www,genesreunited website who have a man with the same name and dates on their family tree. I have sent both a message but it is more than likely that they will not reply- people mostly don't bother but it shows that somewhere there is an answer to your query. I agree with the suggestion that the name should go in the title. It is far more important than the Regiment now.

 

Hi, This is becoming quite a mystery.

I wonder if we are fixating on the name Rumball or any variants.

I know nothing about uniforms but the stitching on the label doesn't look neat.
I managed to find a genuine label on a named jacket per attached. The stitching is much neater and is in white. It doesn't prove anything but in my mind it does raise questions of authenticity.

Unfortunately it is possible that someone has made up the uniform to try and sell it for a better price. I think I would speak to the dealer and try to get more information.

One thing to remember many companies produce replica uniforms with labels. It is probably not difficult to age these items.

I don't know if other members would agree with me
Diane

 

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Diane

 

I have been through all the card catalogues on Ancestry Military, and only came across one Rumball for WW2 - a Lance Sergeant and that was for his Military Medal recommendation.

There were Rumballs, but they go back to the 19th century conflicts

TD

I have to begin to wonder if this is something along the lines of General Problem, Major Rumble, Private Parts etc etc

 

The Parachute Regiment had no officers of its own (except perhaps Quartermasters) until well after the war (like late 1950s). Any officer with the Parachute Regiment before that would have worn his own regimental uniform with red beret and Parachute Regiment badges - hence the anomaly.

Chris

 

The number 47791 appears in the London Gazette as Lt Col TTP Murphy. RAMC OBE TD MD


KOSB - 1940:


https://archive.org/stream/armylist1940grea#page/708/mode/1up


KOSB - 1945:


https://archive.org/stream/armylistaprpart121945grea#page/377/mode/1up

 

It's a mistery, maybe an error in the army number wrote on the label?

 

Eduardo, Perhaps the number is not Maj Rumball's but refers to an order number. I have had a reply re F.A Rumball from a contact on Genes Reunited, They don't know a lot about him but I have just sent details of the uniform to them. I will update you with any further replies.

 

Entered the name in Army Lists - 1939,40,43 and 45 nothing appears listed. KOSB Trews - Government tartan No 7 (Leslie)

 

Eduardo, I have had a little more info from my genesreunited contact re . F. A Rumball. Although his dates seem right- born in 1912 in Paddington, died 1989 in Ipswich he seems an unlikely candidate as he was a bricklayer. There is a little more info but no knowledge of war service. Full name was Frederick Alfred Rumball. Sorry this does not get you any further -must be very frustrating.