L Cpl R C Jolly 1st Battalion Suffolk Regiment

Discussion in '1940' started by Suffolk Boy, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. Suffolk Boy

    Suffolk Boy Member

    Hi everyone.

    My grandfather - L Cpl R C Jolly 5825260 - was killed on 30.5.40 and is buried at Houthlust cemetery alongside a Captain and Private from the Royal Berks, and a RAF aircrew.

    I'd like to find out more about where he was and how he died - the family understand he was shot by a sniper trying to cross a canal/river and taken to a field hospital which was subsequently overrun by the germans.

    I understand from research on this forum that the 1st Battalion Suffolk Regiment was part of 8 Brigade (3rd Division).

    I'd appreciate any further information anyone can add.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Hi there - I know the village of Houthulst, but must say I didn't realise there were any WW2 graves. There aren't really any canals close by, except the Yser Canal, but that is a few miles away.
     
  3. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the Forum,
    at The National Archives there are Files that were opened in recent years that contain enquiries into personnel who were missing.
    WO361/74 is described as - B.E.F. France :-Suffolk Rgt;missing men.
    Some of these Files are very comprehensive,others give just a little but it would be worth trying.

    Brian
     
  4. CROONAERT

    CROONAERT Ipsissimus

    I'd like to find out more about where he was and how he died - the family understand he was shot by a sniper trying to cross a canal/river and taken to a field hospital which was subsequently overrun by the germans.
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    The brigade was on the Yser canal near Noordschote on that day. Diaries mention heavy sniper and mortar activity throughout the day, so the family belief about being sniped may be true.

    dave.
     
  5. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Wondered if you'd have any answer, Dave!
     
  6. Suffolk Boy

    Suffolk Boy Member

    Thanks for the replies chaps. The Yser canal has also been mentioned so that sounds right. Dave - where/what are the diaries you refer to? Stuart
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Welcome to the forum and good luck with your search....Any pictures you can share ?

    Andy
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Do you have a picture of his headstone?

    I'm planning on going to Dunkirk and bobbing over into Belgium for a little wander too. I've noticed the cemetery is in the area I'll be going too (If I go over). I'll grab a shot of his headstone if you want?

    No promises mind

    Andy
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Here's a shot of the canal up the road and East from Noordschote.

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  11. Suffolk Boy

    Suffolk Boy Member

    Hi Andy

    I don't have a picture but would appreciate one if you can. There's a coffee shop/restaurant opposite the church. I went by rail and then bus from Bruges.

    It's still early days for me on here and I have no pictures of him at this stage.

    Stuart
     
  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    No worries Stuart, I'll see what I can do but I may not be going until Oct. Depends on time off with new job.

    Andy
     
  13. Suffolk Boy

    Suffolk Boy Member

    Hi Andy

    I've attached a picture of my grandfather's grave. My brother had one!


    Stuart
     

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  14. Suffolk Boy

    Suffolk Boy Member

    Hi again everyone

    I've spoken to a few family members and it seems my grandfather was wounded (not sure of the date at this stage) and taken to a British field hospital which was subsequently overrun by the enemy.

    Can anyone shed any light on where that field hospital was based?

    I'm going to the NA next week to look at the regimental war diary and its record of missing men, is there any other material that I should look at?


    Thanks.


    Stuart
     
  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Stuart,

    Good to see your research is coming on. Have you thought about applying for your grandfathers service records? They may shed some clues.

    As for Kew I'm sure some other members maybe able to recommend what files to look for at Kew.

    Regards
    Andy
     
  16. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    May be a stupid response, but have you visited the Suffolks Museum in Bury St Edmunds? They will have some info.
     
  17. Suffolk Boy

    Suffolk Boy Member

    Thanks both. No, it's not a stupid suggestion, we know about the museum and my mother's been there. She picked up a photo of him with his mates in Belgium so that was worthwhile. Andy, I'll ask about his service records.

    I'm working my way through The War in France and Flanders (1939-1940) by Major Ellis before I go to Kew. It seems that some place names like Furnes have changed over the years, is that right?
     
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Furnes is French spelling Veurne is Flemish.
     
  19. Suffolk Boy

    Suffolk Boy Member

    Thanks Owen.

    Andy - Where do we apply for his service records?



    Stuart
     
  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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