Longest Service in the British Military?

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  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I've been flicking through David Hackworth's excellent 'About Face' again recently, and his service from WW2, through Korea, and into Vietnam, has got me wondering who the time served record holder for British or Commonwealth forces might be.

    Any candidates?
    Not bothered about period, just musing on who might have spent the most time under the colours, whether Army, Navy, or Air Force.

    (Probably excluding Royals. Seems you can be Commander in Chief well past retirement age.)

    Cheers,
    ~A
     
  2. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

  3. mattgibbs

    mattgibbs Senior Member

    Major Benson, who retired last year, did 37 years, starting as a 16 yr old. Probably not the longest though.
    If you include Royals probably Arthur of Connaught?
    There is a photo online somewhere of a chap with 9 or 10 good conduct stripes isn't there. How many years is that?
     
  4. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

  5. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    I have one of 'my' men in the West Ham Battalion.

    Served as CPO in Royal Navy, Boer War, then became
    the first CSM in the Hammers until disbandment and
    then became RSM for Royal Fusiliers until end of WW1.

    In WW2 he shaved ten years off his age and joined the
    Australian Infantry in 1940 and served a further 18 months
    before being rumbled and Honourably Discharged due to old
    age.

    Haven't done the maths for total length of service, but he
    always makes me smile.

    Three wars and a Military Cross.

    RIP, Mr Cattermole
     
  6. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Thinking about this I was reminded of a veteran I met at Chelsea many years ago. I was intrigued by his medal group which started with a British War Medal for WW1 and ended with the Falklands medal! It transpired he had been RN in WW1 (joined 1918), then Merchant Navy in the 30s and throughout WW2 into the 60s/70s. He was semi-retired and worked in the shop on one of the P&O liners that was requisitioned for going Down South. P&O called for experienced volunteers and off he went, and thus was entitled to the medal! Sadly I never made a note of his name.

    Difficult to beat that one!
     
  7. jainso31

    jainso31 jainso31

    How about "Bobs"- Lord Roberts who did 60 years in the Army

    jainso31
     
  8. sapper

    sapper WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    My best friend in hospital, and at convalescent home, was Regimental Sgt Major Humphrey's. He served in the Boer war. The great war, and came back to help out in WW2. He told me he had served for 42 years. I was his best mate and was supposed to have his medals when he died. Sadly I never got them, and do not know what happened to them. He died just after the war, and I missed his funeral ...I did not know....
    Great mate.
    Sapper
     
  9. mattgibbs

    mattgibbs Senior Member

    Lovely picture of de Wiart! Only one eye, only one arm, and more suprisingly, only one Victoria Cross! :D
     
  10. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    What about Admiral Sir Walter Cowan KCB, DSO & Bar MVO, born 1871 died 1956, Joined the RN as a Midshipman in 1886, saw service in the Boer War and both World Wars, he retired in 1931 recalled to train Commandos in small boat handling he deployed to the Middle East but was captured at Bir Hakim taking on an Italian tank crew single handed with his revolver while attached to an Indian Cavalry Regt, he was repatriated in 1943 and rejoined the Commandos seeing further action in Italy - he was awarded a bar to his DSO, he retired for the last time in 1945.
    A total of FIFTY years service his last few as a Commando
    In 2007 the Estonian Navy named a vessel The Admiral Cowan in his honour.
    H.M.S. Hood Association-Battle Cruiser Hood: Crew Information - Biography of Admiral Sir Walter Henry "Tich" Cowan, Bt, K.C.B., D.S.O., M.V.O.

    And Von Poop will like this:D Commando in a Pith Helmet
     

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  11. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Great stuff chaps.

    Another very long service Naval man, from Normandy to Falklands period:
    Surgeon Vice-Admiral Sir John Harrison - Telegraph

    Hmm, they seem to keep 'em going in the Navy - one more from WW2 to CiC Fleet during the Falklands:
    John Fieldhouse, Baron Fieldhouse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Sure I've read something recently about a very old Napoleonic soldier - can't think where though.


    Thinking about it, my Grandad didn't do so bad for long service - joined in 1924, and retired in 1964 (though I believe there were a couple of years out in the middle).
     
  12. Roxy

    Roxy Senior Member

    My Adjt at RAF Woodvale joined the Army as a boy soldier just after his 15th birthday; after serving contiuously in the Queens', the UDR and the RAF he retired on his 65th birthday - he would have stayed longer if he had been allowed!

    Perhaps not the longest time under the Colours but it impressed me.

    Roxy
     
  13. pierce09

    pierce09 Member

    for a junior rank with continuous service, GSM (WO1) William MOTT Welsh Guards is doing well, joined in 1979, survived the attack on Sir Galahad in the Falklands War and was in charge of the funeral service for Baroness Thatcher's funeral last week. 34 years and counting in today's army is good going in my eyes! his brother is Major Nicky MOTT, also Welsh Guards
     
  14. The Cooler King

    The Cooler King Elite Member

  15. chrisgrove

    chrisgrove Senior Member

    According to the Press, brother Nick was also on the Sir Galahad and was also closely involved in Baroness Thatcher's funeral; Maj Mott in front of the coffin, GSM Mott behind.

    Chris
     
  16. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    I remember the late Dr Bruce Cooper, who I met at Gibraltar in October 2008. During WW2 Dr Cooper served with the RNVR. He was a member of 'Operation Tracer', the team who would stayed behind sealed insode the Rock of Gibraltar in the event the Germans were able to successfully take over the Rock.

    By 1982 Dr Cooper was 'semi-retired' but working as the ship's doctor on the P & O ship SS Uganda used for educational trips for school children. When Argentina invaded the Falklands the SS Uganda was requisitioned as a hospital ship for the British fleet and Dr Cooper went with her (i.e 43 years after first going to sea). However, I am not sure now whether, technically speaking, Dr Cooper would have been regarded as a civilian for the Falklands conflict.

    Obviously Dr Cooper's service was not quite as lengthy as your Chelsea veteran, Paul but neverheless it is a remarkable length of service. Dr Cooper passed away at the age of 96 in December 2010. He was a real gentleman.

    Daily Telegraph obituary for Dr Bruce Cooper:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/military-obituaries/naval-obituaries/8237588/Surgeon-Lt-Cdr-Bruce-Cooper.html
     
  17. Wills

    Wills Very Senior Member

    John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, 1667 - 1722


    Field Marshal BL Montgomery 1908 - 1958 (Active List)
     
  18. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Paul
    it's characters like de Wiart that made the British Army - he was in good company when O'Conner - Neame V.C. and Combe joined him - O'Conner took over 8th Corps at F& G while Combe commanded a Brigade in Italy

    Cheers
     
  19. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    Among those who served in the Home Guard during WW2 were 'old soldiers' from WW1 or even earlier times. If one were to count the Home Guard then some of these men could have had 50 years + service.

    (I am almost tempted to quote a certain Lance Corporal Jack Jones of Walmington-on-Sea Home Guard, who was at Omdurman, at this point but I will refrain from doing so!).
     
  20. servicepub

    servicepub Junior Member

    With Canadians my guess would be Leonard Birchall. A WWII pilot he was called the "Saviour of Ceylon" by Churchill and racked up a Canadian Forces Decoration (for twelve years service) along with five bars, indicating a further 50 years for a minimum of 62 years service 'under the colours'. Other decorations include the Order of Canada, Order of the British Empire, Order of Ontario, and the Distinguished Flying Cross.


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