I'm hoping someone can help me with the War Diary covering 21/11/43, I'm trying to find the details of the deaths of Troopers Richardson and Gunthorpe - I'm trying to find out about the death of a RASC lad (Dvr Lisle) who is buried next to them in Minturno and looks to have been next to them in his initial field grave, same date of death and ID's the same way (by a label) so I'm just checking in case the deaths are linked, but even if not the location of their deaths is probably going to be an indicator of where the Dvr Lisle was killed
Aati hasn't been around since 2018, maybe worth a message, he presumably still has copies? 46 Recce war diary [Deleted] or 46 Recce corps – Italy Star Association 1943-1945
I've got a bit about Lisle in this thread Casualty Service and Paybook Collection but like a few of the other casualties its unfortunately vague and I'd like to build a bit more of a picture Looks like Aati isn't messagable and oddly I can't seem to tag them into my post using Aati in the hope a notification draws them in for a look - I'll have a look at the Italy Star Assocation forum post Thanks both edit - looks like I have tagged them in, odd as when I typed it wasn't bringing up the name as it usually does
21st November. “C” Squadron patrol on the night of 20th/21st consisted of 1 Recce officer, 1 R.E. officer, 1 N.C.O. and 1 Trooper. They went forward to recce the blown bridge over the river at 807934 and reached 809931 and observed enemy movement this side of the river. The movement of a boat being rowed across the river and also the appearance of approximately 12 men. Patrol at 824933 saw and heard no movement of the enemy. During the night the DUKW in which Major Neill and other ranks were travelling was blown up by a mine under two feet of water. This was on the track leading from 858887 south west to the coast. Casualties – Trooper Gunthorpe, killed, Trooper Richardson, missing believed killed. Driver Lisle (RASC) attached, killed. Injured – Major D. Neill, M.C., Sergeant Redican, L/Corporal Pote, L/Corporal Beech, Driver Graham (RASC). None of these injuries were serious. 21st/22nd November, night. During the evening the enemy shelled and mortared 835925. “A” Squadron patrol to bridges 822934, 824933 NMS, nothing to report. “C” Squadron patrol of 1 – Recce officer, 1 R.E. and 16 O.R.s left 837907 for the bridge at 809934. The patrol bumped an enemy platoon in strength. We killed at least four and wounded others and the enemy dispersed. One of our men was wounded and the patrol returned. “B” Squadron Assault Troop under an officer went out to try to find the bodies for identification. No bodies were found and vehicles were heard moving westwards on the north side of the river. 383rd S. P. Battery with D.F. tasks on M.R. 807934 helped considerably during the night firing 255 rounds between 19.37 hours and 02.45 hours. Due to your request I have updated my details as I didn't have the details of G H Lisle in my records. Do you have a higher res photo of his headstone? Cheers Paul
https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2018/172/56546845_64746c0d-6582-40e6-b709-ae766f3b95f7.jpeg DRIVER GEORGE HENRY LISLE Service Number: T/191334 Regiment & Unit/Ship Royal Army Service Corps Date of Death Died 21 November 1943 Age 28 years old Buried or commemorated at MINTURNO WAR CEMETERY III, C, 1. Italy Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom Additional InfoSon of George and Ellen Lisle, of Newcastle-on-Tyne; husband of Florence May Lisle, of Fenham, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
Thanks Paul, thats brilliant, just been messing about with coordinate converters and looks like they were on the SP264 road when they hit the mine. I'll add this info to my files and also to the other thread George Lisle's Nephew this is hopefully useful information for you too
