Looking for my father 1941-46; 6009811 Alexander George BEWERS, Essex Regt., Grenadier Guards & RA

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by Valia, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. Valia

    Valia Junior Member

    Hi
    My Dad (Alexander George Bewers) was a regular army soldier in 3rd battalion Grenadier Guards. He was with them in France and was wounded on the retreat to Dunkirk.
    He told me that he and other wounded men were left behind in a church because they couldn't keep up with the rest, however some of them decided to try and get back on their own.
    He did make it to the beaches and got out in one of the last boats.
    He was in hospital in Yorkshire and after that was told he was unfit for the Guards so was transferred to the Royal Artillery. He served in Iraq, Italy, Palestine and Greece until 1946.

    I have searched but found no mention of this incident during the retreat in published materials. Can anybody shed some light please? :confused:



    [Edit dbf: title on merging with older thread]
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Welcome to the forum.
    Moved your post to it's own thread.
     
  3. Valia

    Valia Junior Member

    Hi and Sorry for the huge time span.

    My father was a soldier from 1936. He served in the 3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards until he was wounded on the retreat to Dunkirk.He had to leave the Grenadiers then because of his injuries.
    After that his story gets vague.
    I know he served in Italy at some point because he had the Italy Star.
    I know he served in Iraq at some stage because I have photos of him that he said were taken in Baghdad and Basra.
    I know he was in Palestine because he mentioned Irgun and the Stern Gang.
    I know he was in Greece because he got engaged to a Greek girl. He promised to return after he was demobbed, but never did.

    He may have been with the Royal Artillery, but I've not been able to trace him.
    I now think he might have been with one of the Territoriel battalions of the Essex regiment because the locations match quite well.

    I have requested his service records, but I've been waiting ages for a reply.

    My father's name was Alexander George Bewers. I know this is a long shot, but he might have appeared on someone's radar ? :( :biggrin:
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Did you apply to the Guards HQ or the Army Records in Glasgow?

    I would recommend reading a copy of Guards VC by Dilip Sarkar. This covers 3 GG in France during 1940.
     
  6. Valia

    Valia Junior Member

    Ta Clive

    Will give them a nudge.

    Ta Drew

    I haven't tried the Guards HQ because they wouldn't have been interested in him after Dunkirk.
    I don't know anything about Army Records in Glasgow, but will google now.
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Who did you apply to for them ?
     
  8. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    I see you posted your query below in January 2013 and didn't get any replies

    "Valia
    Hi
    My Dad (Alexander George Bewers) was a regular army soldier in 3rd battalion Grenadier Guards. He was with them in France and was wounded on the retreat to Dunkirk.
    He told me that he and other wounded men were left behind in a church because they couldn't keep up with the rest, however some of them decided to try and get back on their own.
    He did make it to the beaches and got out in one of the last boats.
    He was in hospital in Yorkshire and after that was told he was unfit for the Guards so was transferred to the Royal Artillery. He served in Iraq, Italy, Palestine and Greece until 1946.

    I have searched but found no mention of this incident during the retreat in published materials. Can anybody shed some light please? :confused: "
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Is this your father?:

    Birth details
    Name: Alexander G Bewers
    Mother's Maiden Surname: Runter
    Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1917
    Registration district: Chelmsford
    Inferred County: Suffolk
    Volume Number: 4a
    Page Number: 1109

    Outward from UK Passenger list:

    Name: Mr A G Bewers
    Gender: Male
    Age: 34
    Birth Date: abt 1917
    Departure Date: 24 May 1951
    Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
    Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
    Ship Name: Dorsetshire

    Death details:

    Name: Alexander George Bewers
    Birth Date: 1 Jan 1917
    Date of Registration: Sep 1979
    Age at Death: 62
    Registration district: Dartford
    Inferred County: Kent
    Volume: 16
    Page: 0885

    Marriage details:

    Marriage to Gladys Hilda Hawkins
    1946
    Age: 29
    Chelmsford Essex UK


    TD

    edited to add:
    On Ancestry there is 1 Public tree and 1 Private tree for this person
     
  10. Valia

    Valia Junior Member

    Good Morning.

    4jonboy:

    Thanks
    Yes I posted that query in 2013. There's no reason I shouldn't be trying again is there?

    Tricky Dicky:

    Thanks
    Yes,That's him. I know those details apart from the voyage to Australia. This is new information but not impossible. I was only a small child and remember nothing of that happening. My father did say to me in later years that we had almost emigrated to Australia, but that my mother had baulked at the last minute. It is possible that he went alone and returned later. He was certainly in my life later on, if reluctantly.
     
  11. Valia

    Valia Junior Member

    And again.....

    Drew 5233

    Thanks I will try and get hold of the Sarkar book

    Owen

    Thanks. I applied to the MOD with the £30 cheque.
     
  12. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Sorry, see next post.
    As he was a Grenadier, you need to apply to GG RHQ at Wellington Barracks. MOD Glasgow do not hold service records for Guardsmen.
    See post 2
    http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/31741-researching-guardsmen-and-the-foot-guards/?p=383783




    Good luck.

    .
    Lesley was just pointing out the older thread - merging them just saves any potential confusion at a later date, keeps all the info/replies in one place. :)
     
  13. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Diane,

    I understand that if a Guardsman transferred out of the regiment his papers would not usually be retained by the relevant Guards RHQ so in this case his papers would be with MOD.

    However RHQ GG may be able to assist at least with his service number which should be recorded in the enlistment book.

    Regards

    Steve
     
  14. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Ooops sorry, you're correct, that should be the case... MOD would be first place to apply if transferred.
     
  15. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    I had a look through the Australian archives but couldn't find any references to his name. There is a passenger search function which is pretty accurate so I think this ties in with the story about them canceling at the last minute.

    It's a pity that his application to emigrate isn't in the archives as one of the questions regards the applicant's previous military service.
     
  16. Valia

    Valia Junior Member

    Thank you DaveB, that was kind of you.

    I found a 2nd hand copy of 'Guards VC' online and can't wait to read it.

    My father, like many others, spoke rarely about his early life. He was a hard man who lived in the moment and I was afraid of him. My mother died young, so my parents are almost strangers. Any snippet of information is pure gold.
     
  17. Valia

    Valia Junior Member

    Hello after a long absence

    Further to my search in 2015......... I gave up on researching my father and since have concentrated on looking for more information on my mother. I found some very interesting things about her, but eventually exhausted all avenues.
    So back to Alec Bewers. I'm now fairly confident that he was wounded at the Battle of the Ypres-Comines Canal May 25-28th 1940. If he and his friend made it back to Dunkirk they'd not have reached there in time for the main evacuation phase so maybe the wounded from this battle were transported to another Channel port ??
     
  18. EmpireUmpire

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  20. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

    It was possible to have been on the passenger list but not have sailed. My grandparents are on two seperate lists but never went as my dad who was part way through an engineering apprenticeship in the UK did not want to go.

    The fare was £ 10, I assume subsidised by the Australian Government, hence the expression in Australia "Ten Pound Poms".

    Travers
     
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