Map showing British Artillery deployment on D Day - comments please

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  1. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    Here is a map showing British Artillery deployment on D day. Comments very welcome. Spot the errors and I'll by you a virtual beer! (Redeemable if and when we meet face to face.or with a favour in kind)
     

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  2. tmac

    tmac Senior Member

    Just some place names towards the eastern side of the map ....

    It should be Saint-Aubin-d’Arquenay, not St Aubin Aubingey.

    It is Ouistreham, not Ouistrehem.

    And it's Colleville sur Orne, not Coleville sur Orne
     
  3. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    Thank you
     
  4. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    Frank, are we saying AGRA's = their Regts inc Heavy Bty's for landing purpose's ?
    Well done
    Rob
     
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  5. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    Well spotted. The HQ AGRA were not scheduled to land until D+2 and I missed 420 Hy Battery (and the 3 AGRA typo)
     
  6. idler

    idler GeneralList

    I keep meaning to check, but I don't think much of 7 Armd Div, besides advance parties and possibly some FOOs, got ashore on D-Day itself (5 RHA's Paddy Victory spoke of a covering role on a flank IIRC).

    Might it be clearer having separate 'planned' and 'actual' maps given the amount of detail (cost considerations aside)?

    PS: in case you weren't aware, the book's had a one star review on Amazon as an interested party can't find any information on the publisher's website!
     
  7. klambie

    klambie Senior Member

    3 Cdn Div detail mislabeled 4 Cdn Div. Should be 3 Cdn A/Tk u/c.
     
  8. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    My father was with G Battery (Mercers Troop) 5 RHA,7th Armoured Div. .He notes in his Journal that they landed on the evening of D Day just in time to see gliders going in..This must have been Operation Mallard when 6th Air landing brigade reinforced the Orne Bridges.on the evening of the 6th June
     
  9. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    What exactly does it say in his journal? He could have witnessed Op Mallard from a ship. The G Battery war diary entry for 6 June says that at 2100 they reached anchorage off France and "hung about all night rolling unpleasantly" It notes RB as landing around 0630hrs on the 7th and RA at 1700hrs.
     
  10. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    Thank you
     
  11. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    Have revisited my fathers Notes.He describes them as Journals but they were written up some time after the event.
    He may have been an advance party but he was not in an OP tank but a RAM so doubtful.
    If sentences were reversed in the last paragraph the landing would be on the second day.
    It was my assumption that it was in the evening.

    D DAY

    The anchor was pulled up and we were allowed on deck, and what a sight, just a faint glow of light on the horizon but many hundreds ofships all going in the same direction as if laid out on a table. That was the only look we took.The Marines had gone ashore to clear a path (as did the sappers throughthe minefields of Alamein).The sight of criss crosses and barbed wire with shells attached to the tops could be seen.
    The RAF had done a grand job on the concrete gun emplacements and we landed and got to a spinney of trees on the ridge. We were just in time to see the Gliders towed by Wellingtons going to the bridges at Bauex
     
  12. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    hand written note from which he wrote up his Journals.
    I post it just to note he says the tide is on ebb.
     

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  13. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    Your father's account may reflect what he remembered some years later. Memory can be a tricky thing, with the sequence of events and details becoming confused. Richard Holmes had an informal lecturette on the problems of veteran accounts. There is a bit of this in "Tommy" where he criticises the veterans' accounts of the cavalry action at high wood in Lyn Macdonald's book on the Somme.

    The G battery War Diary seems unequivocal and I can't see any serial in the "Gold beach" thread GOLD BEACH.

    RAHT008.jpg
     
  14. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    I can't see any serial in the "Gold beach" thread

    Hi,
    The reason that there are no serial numbers on the Gold Beach thread is that the information was taken from the Force “G” LTIN.

    The War Diary says that the unit was carried by Force “L”.

    The LTIN for Force “L” ranged from 3000 to 3999.

    Regards

    Danny
     
  15. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    Fine, if you think they were scheduled to land on D Day please give me the scheduled landing tide and serial.
     
  16. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hi,
    I did not say they landed on D Day.

    I just posted why there are no serial numbers relating to units carried by Force “L” in the Gold Beach thread.

    At the moment I do not have access to the information I have on Force “L” but when I do I will have a look and see if there is anything in there giving the times the units actually landed.

    Mike’s thread on Force “L” is here Naval Force 'L'

    The LTIN for 5 RHA are in here with the times they were due to land.

    Serial 3751 is an LST2 carrying

    4 25pdr SP guns with 26 crew from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.


    Serial 3751 is an LST2 carrying

    1 Sherman OP with 6 crew from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.


    Serial 3752 is an LST2 carrying

    4 25pdr SP Sexton from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.

    1 Sherman OP from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.

    31 men from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.


    Serial 3754 is an LST2 carrying

    4 25pdr SP Sexton from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.

    1 Sherman OP from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.

    31 men from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.


    Serial 3757 is a LST2 carrying

    4 25pdr SP Sexton from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.

    1 Sherman OP from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.

    31 men from 5 Royal Horse Artillery RA.


    Regards

    Danny
     
  17. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    Many thanks
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2017
  18. D-DayDodger

    D-DayDodger Member

  19. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake All over the place....

    You might be able to draw some conclusions from the content of the thread.
     
  20. redtop

    redtop Well-Known Member

    These photos never published before are shown by permission of L Archer whose Father Bdr Archer of C Section A Troop G Battery 5 RHA took them on 6th June
     
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