Military mistresses

Discussion in 'The Women of WW2' started by Capt.Sensible, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

    Hormones can occasionally make a man behave badly?
     
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  2. KieronDublin

    KieronDublin Member

  3. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Then there is the report that Eisenhower wished to divorce his wife and marry Summersby but Trueman threatened to sack him if he did.

    Apparently Bradley recorded in his biography that the Eisenhower-Summersby relationship was genuine and they were in love.
     
  4. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    My copy of 'A Soldier's Story' contained nothing of the sort.
     
  5. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    This very page, Tom.
     
  6. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Apparently referenced in Summersby's publication Past Forgetting and then the two sources referenced in Eisenhower in War and Peace by Jean Edward Smith.....published by Random House 2012.....its in a digital format and perhaps may be seen on line.
     
  7. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Those are not Bradley's biography
     
  8. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    No point in carrying it any further Jeff. Mr. Canning is so hung up on that "Under Ike" thing that it clouds his judgement and aggravates his "anti-US" everything mindset.
     
  9. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    A58

    You have me as wrong as Jeff does - I am NOT anti-US - never have been BUT i am anti bad commanders - and in that category I place Ike as he was a very good POLITICAL General -

    and owing to his natural personality kept the allies together - BUT as a Field Commander he was badly educated - as i discovered early on in North Africa - then Sicily before he was appointed to

    NWE.

    Both yourself and Jeff never served under him and so relied on your media to tell you how great he was - without reading the other media's viewpoint - Jeff is still refusing to read any of the

    articles I have suggested- which indicates his mindset.

    The whole object of this Forum is to discuss many facets of WW2 - both pro and con which clouds Jeff's judgement in his refusal to read any other aspect of this subject…...

    and I thought you might be above that….

    Cheers
     
  10. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    Mr. Canning, you really do show your contempt for the US in many of your posts, of course it's usually the ones in the threads with US oriented subject matter. Of course most here on this forum wouldn't notice it, or make a stink over it due to the imbalance of US to UK/Commonwealth posters who populate this forum who probably agree with you. Usually I blow it off, but in this case your personal assessment of Ike and Bradley during the opening days of the Battle of the Bulge was a bit much in my opinion. He spent four days (and nights) partying like it was 1999 while the biggest German push in NWE since 1940 was developing? Not even trying to get into the game? Really? I have my own opinions about various Allied commanders, and none of which were made by US media, or Hollywood as you've claimed in the past posts. Yes you are right that I, Jeff, or probably anyone else on this forum served during that timeframe we are talking about. Our knowledge on the subject came from independent study. And no source that I've read (I've read a lot, but not everything) indicated that Ike and Bradley were shacked up in a whorehouse laying pipe while their troops were out in the snow getting their frozen asses handed to them by a large group of very enterprising and highly motivated Germans. Until reading your versions tonight that is. Well, they were getting their asses handed to them, no doubt about that, but that's what usually happens when you get sucker punched. But we rallied and carried the day, thanks to Monty tending to business on the northern flank and Patton relieving the 101st at Bastogne. We were all right there in it together you know.

    As I've said before, I have great respect for you and the other veterans who served in that war and all the others. However, that does not mean that your personal speculations on what happened on the days/nights of 16-20 December 1944 carries any weight with those who seriously studied the unfolding events of that desperate campaign.
     
  11. A-58

    A-58 Not so senior Member

    A little late on the response, but here's some information on FDR's mistresses for those who are inclined to consider the subject matter.

    Number one girlfriend.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Mercer_Rutherfurd


    There is another possible accomplice in the scheme of things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marguerite_LeHand


    Maybe this lady was in the rotation as well. She even accompanied FDR on the presidential yacht to visit Churchill during the signing of the Atlantic Charter!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_M%C3%A4rtha_of_Sweden


    And, although it was reported several times in Eleanor Roosevelt's lifetime that FDR had had a serious affair with an unnamed Catholic woman, this remained only a rumor for decades (according to wike of course).

    For being wheelchair bound, FDR surely got around!
     
  12. Nijmegen

    Nijmegen Member

  13. TriciaF

    TriciaF Junior Member

     
  14. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    Yeah, I am done here, Bobby.

    It seems that those who comment back to me in this thread aren't actually reading, or more likely not wanting to understand, what I am saying.

    Not unusual when Monty and Ike are discussed.

    Someone could start a thread asking about the size, color, and consistency of Eisenhower's bowel movements and the knee-jerk response would be that he was screwing* his driver for four whole days in mid-December, 1944 instead of looking at maps and issuing orders to the troops.

    although "laying pipe" was a great descriptive term.
     
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