Hi Jhor, good to see you again. jhor, what was your opinion on the quality of the B17's you flew? Were they sent from the factory in good shape, or did your ground crews have to fix them up before combat?
Marvelous to share this forum with you Jhor. I like everyone else here, will be very keen to hear of your real life's experiences. It makes us dreamers feel kinda humble. Perhaps I might also ask if you are familiar with this particular B-17 that is in flying condition today? Serial number 124485.
Hi Jhor, good to see you again. jhor, what was your opinion on the quality of the B17's you flew? Were they sent from the factory in good shape, or did your ground crews have to fix them up before combat? When I and my crew were ready to ship out, I got a factory new B!7 in Salina KS. After a week or 10 days after checking out all the instruments and putting the plane through it's paces we flew the plane to Rabat Morocco,we were assigned to the 99th B.G. about 2 weeks later. .I flew 8-9 different planes during my tour. the ground crews were fantastic in replacing parts and repairing batttle damaged planes.
Marvelous to share this forum with you Jhor. I like everyone else here, will be very keen to hear of your real life's experiences. It makes us dreamers feel kinda humble. Perhaps I might also ask if you are familiar with this particular B-17 that is in flying condition today? Serial number 124485. No, I'm not familiar with that particular plane. The Collings Foundation makes an annual circuit around the U.S. with a B17, B24 and B25. They will be in my area in mid Jan 08 sans the B24 which is going through heavy maintenance.
I salute you, Sir. I look forward to any posts you make regarding your service. Thank you. My father: Gunner Alfred Ernest New, 1150279, enlisted 28th May 1942, Q Battery, 56th Heavy Regiment, Royal Artillery captured 20th April 1943 in Tunis. Camp No. 98, Scilly 27th April 1943 to 20th June 1943. Camp No 53, Macerta 23rd June 1943 to 20th August 1943 N.A.44.E. Konnern 1st September 1943 to 14th April 1945 working on the Railways.
Have you any pictures of your time that we could see Jules? Cheers, Adam. I have a few pitures, but I don't know how to get them on this site
JHor9, thank you for your service during the war. I was wondering how many times your bomber came under fighter attack? Did you ever have P51 escorts and if so what was your thoughts on their abilities? God Bless! P51 Fan
JHor9, thank you for your service during the war. I was wondering how many times your bomber came under fighter attack? Did you ever have P51 escorts and if so what was your thoughts on their abilities? God Bless! P51 Fan I don't know how many times I was under fighter attack, however my crew had credit for 6 kills. For me flak was worse then fighters, more bombers were lost to flak then to fighters. I was flying the plane, keeping in tight formation so I really didn't see fighters. Flak was very scary, especially on the bomb run.The Germans would put up barrages and we just had to go through it, I had a plane directly in front of me explode, I went through the debris 1/2 second later, hearing parts hitting my fusilage. P51s didn't get to my theatre until after I left. They were able to escort the bombers all the way to and from the target. Enemy fighters ceased to be a problem once the P51s came. I don't know if I mentioned it before, but at 25000 feet the temp was -50 to -60F below zero, no heat, open waist windows.
Have you any pictures of your time that we could see Jules? Cheers, Adam. Adam, If you go to armyairforces.com forum, and check canteen and heavy bombers, and scroll around,you will find an avatar of me standing alongside of a plane that I flew a few times.
Thanks Jules, that's an impressive forum, and a nice shot (A lot of missions marked on that plane!). Hope you don't mind me posting it here? I followed one link on there and went a bit further (and again hope it's OK with you to share this.) : Horowitz, Jules - Brightcove Great stuff. Cheers, Adam.
Jules, I have to ask, did you do any leaflet drops? Nickel raids the Brits called them. Best wishes, Lee
Good evening Mr Horowitz, good to see you drop by. I enjoyed hearing you talk about your good landing in NC. I would like to shake your hand also, give you a little bit more of a "pay off." Thanks for serving our country.
I'm a new member of ww2talk. I am interested in what really happened in ww2 and in clearing my mind of stereotypes and misconceptions about the conflict, such as its size and origin. My step-father was an Army officer, now retired, and a Viet Nam War veteran. If I can, I'd like to understand the reasons, if they are true, for the belief that ww2 almost resulted in humanities destruction. This may be a stereotype, but I will research this concept.
I was a B17 pilot in ww2, N.Africa-Italy 99th BG 50 missioins July 43 - Feb 44 I will answer questions if I can Re B17 I would like to learn about Italy-n. Africa during ww2 ,,your experiences, those of others, and the records of the conflict. All I remember about North Africa is that it was important to the German military because of the oil fields. Are there details that are restricted by laws concerning the battles?
I'm a new member of ww2talk. I am interested in what really happened in ww2 and in clearing my mind of stereotypes and misconceptions about the conflict, such as its size and origin. My step-father was an Army officer, now retired, and a Viet Nam War veteran. If I can, I'd like to understand the reasons, if they are true, for the belief that ww2 almost resulted in humanities destruction. This may be a stereotype, but I will research this concept. Say hello in user introductions, dan908 and tell us more about yourself.
Jules, I have to ask, did you do any leaflet drops? Nickel raids the Brits called them. Best wishes, Lee On the day before Rome was bombed for the 1st time, leaflets were dropped. It was my first mission/sortie, 7/19/43. No other leaflet experience.
Jules, Can you tell us what the Air Force did with men who had completed their tour of duty overseas? I assume they did not give you a discharge! Instructor perhaps, or "flying a desk"? OZ
Hello Jhor !!! Glad to see you here. Just joined this forum recently, after Scott switched forums at Army Air Forces. I cannot view but about 1 or 2 threads over there now before it locks my computer up .... sad, it was great there, but now just an aggravation. Nice to run into an old friend here.