Discussion in 'Research Material' started by von Poop, Oct 2, 2008.
Another one's got the bug !
already planning the next trip.
I'll have to find time to digest all the other info before I do though
More building work at Kew.
Changes in the first floor reading rooms - The National Archives
I've just noticed you can now advance order 12 files instead of 6. What a great idea
I need to be re-infected, have not been for over a year and my reader's ticket is out of date.
Mine too. Does that mean that we have to take the parchment-handling test again ?
Although I have been getting an error message a number of times saying I've exceeded 20 documents.
I suspect they are checking any documents you may already have carried over in your locker from a previous day.
I think they've always made sure you don't exceed 21 documents. I've had that in the past.
Any suggestions for a campsite that would be within reasonable travel time by public transport? I have no knowledge of the areas surrounding Kew.
You could stay at Laleham Camp site at Staines Welcome to Laleham Camping Club - Near London - Rugby - Twickenham - Accommodation. They claim that Staines railway station is 15 minutes by bus and it would take you about another 30 minutes from there to Kew
Old hands will be aware that you could download files on site at TNA for free but I discovered yesterday that they have now instituted a charge. £3.50 per item seems a bit steep, especially where they have digitised old microfilm, and did so years ago, as the costs have long since been recovered. I know that public services are cash strapped but this seems like a strange move to me. You can still request the file and make your own copy which causes additional work for TNA staff and needless wear on the files. I wonder how long it will be before they start charging for requesting a file to view on site.
Thanks. I must say that prices quoted are amazingly good value considering the proximity to London.
The current trend at Kew is to replace desks, microfilm machines and computer terminals with soft furnishings chosen from the "80% off" range as advertised on the telly at Christmas.This range matches the red glare from the steps in the new glass vault ( lecture theatre for a small audience ) which is permanently lit despite the fact that it is empty most of the time. In other words, cheap and nasty.
There are new examples of "80% off" flanking the entrance to the mezzanine tea joint on the first floor, often empty, but for the catering staff. The water in the gentleman's lavatory by the library is now thames water cold and all but one lightbulb has been removed, thus excusing the amount of liquid left on the floor the poor cleaner has to cope with. Rumour has it that visitors to Kew will be encouraged to pick up spare copies of "The Metro" from the tube to Kew Gardens to make do and mend, and please don't block the sewer.
According to the Users Advisory minutes for June there will be a charge for lockers and all will be "digitised."
As to matters of research and using Ancestry at Kew the minutes for March and June 2017 are worth reading because they indicate very serious matters of concern to military history types, or just ordinary folk who want to see how their ancients preserved the nation state and its treasures.
For access to "User" group papers go the main website and scroll down to where it has a "Site A to Z", go to U, and click on the two types of groups. Most of it is in modern gibberish, but very serious issues about ONLY being able to access public records by paying Ancestry have been raised.
My bugbear is with the appallingly bad Find My Past interface for Prisoners of War records which means it takes ten times as long to access an IJA card from WO 345 as it did with the hard copy. By all means preserve the original and substitute a copy but the obvious answer is to clearly label what the archive is. In order to get hapless users to use up credits FMP do not label the record except in meaningless tosh e.g. " Thai or Japan". The old file reference would work a treat.
Microfilm is the obvious solution.
Old hand indeed ! Hard copy is the new thing, digital is just old hat for the spooks and crooks to play with.
Now, where's my Fred Astaire 78. Must change the needle.
Was this implemented this week? I was still able to download for free using onsite wifi last Thursday.
Usually when a document has been digitised or microfilmed, the original is not orderable any more. This has always been a frustration for me, especially as microfilm readers rapidly bring on a migraine.
I don't go anywhere near them for all the tea in China after Andrea's financial disaster
Oh, do tell ! On open forum preferably.
My visit was on Tuesday, 8th August.
The SHAEF papers (WO 229) were digitised from microfilm and range in quality between totally illegible to adequate but they are at least still free to download offsite, at least for the time being. Perhaps common sense will prevail when the digital copy is illegible.
We don't talk about Kew Gate anymore
The first rule of Kew Club...
Separate names with a comma.