No.11 Military Mission - Unmarked Grave Possibly Identified

Discussion in '1940' started by Drew5233, Aug 18, 2010.

  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Thats amazing Andrew and thanks so much !

    I just wish I could find the final proof to have his name put on that headstone-I know its him.
  2. May1940

    May1940 Senior Member

    Bit bored this afternoon so this is Andy's junction in 1957, courtesy of IGN:

    The house is not inconsistent with the one in Andrew's photo of a Guy wheeled tank in this thread:

    I note that the file name implies that the photo has been cropped, I wonder if there's a clearer view of the staggered junction in the original?

    Even better, though, the IGN map (pre-roundabout) names the junction:

    Could the name on the house/pub be LE REPOS DES CHASSEURS?

    My eye of faith sees ..REPO..


    Here's the original from eBay - not much help I am afraid.


    Attached Files:

  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Thanks Andrew,

    Assuming the marking is a unit-Can anyone ID the marking on the front of the sidecar?
  4. walmer_10

    walmer_10 Junior Member

    My opinion on the subject is that these members of No.3 Military and Air Mission (Phantom) were killed by an anti tank weapon. This is well recorded and confirmed by surviving members of the Mission in 1940. 2/Lt Edgcumbe and crew did drive a Guy Armoured Car and drove around the corner. They were hit by the enemy anti-tank gun and the crew were killed in action.
  5. BottyWWFC

    BottyWWFC Member

    Quite a sobering thread for me on more than one level.....As a former Royal Lancer (9th/12th) and originally hailing from Wolverhampton, the home of Guy Motors where these armoured cars were built. Such a distant event yet so relevant.
  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Sadly after having been informed today by my best mate that someone else is blatantly claiming to have identified who the Unknown Officer is as their own work, when it was my research after reading a random post by Paul aka Reccemitch on here 8 years ago that led me to put two and two together and get four with the help of some other forum members and the National Archives, me and Rich will no longer be posting any updates on here until a report has been compiled and filed to the MOD and CWGC for their perusal to see if they accept who I believe to be buried in the unknown grave.

    If anyone has anything to share with us regarding this post of LCpl Webbers feel free to send us a private message.

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  7. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Dunkirk Memorial

    - EDGCUMBE, Piers Richard 2/Lt


    CWGC change as of Saturday.
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  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    That's good news-I believe the headstone will be replaced next year on the date of his death. I'm glad he's finally coming in from the cold. Thanks to everyone who contributed especially Paul (RecceMitch). Without his post making me curious I'd never have found who it was.
  9. MongoUK

    MongoUK Junior Member

    Andy do you know if the general public are likely allowed to be there on the day?
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  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Yes, but I think I may be pre occupied with a 7 year old near by on a beach ;)
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  11. jonheyworth

    jonheyworth Senior Member

    So ...... Drew ! After such a super success ..... your next target is ?
  12. BrianHall1963

    BrianHall1963 Well-Known Member

    Great work keep it up well done
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Another officer that didn't make it to Dunkirk.
  14. jonheyworth

    jonheyworth Senior Member

    Good luck mate and remember ... circle of trust !!
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  15. BrianHall1963

    BrianHall1963 Well-Known Member

    Good luck and best wishes
  16. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

  17. Quarterfinal

    Quarterfinal Well-Known Member

    Piece in today’s Telegraph page two advises”headstone will be replaced after Covid restrictions are relaxed.”
  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Service Number: 87192
    Regiment & Unit/Ship

    Royal Armoured Corps

    12th Royal Lancers

    Date of Death
    Died 27 May 1940

    Age 25 years old

    Buried or commemorated at

    2. H. 28


    • Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
    • Additional InfoSon of Kenelm William Edward and Lilian Agnes Edgcumbe, of Holwell Court, Hatfield, Herts.
    • N.B.Recent research has shown that Second Lieutenant Edgcumbe is buried here. The Commission is in the process of producing a headstone to mark his grave. Please note that this casualty was previously commemorated on the Dunkirk Memorial; his name will be removed when the appropriate panel is next replaced.
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  19. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    From my Photo Collection
    Essendon War Memorial, Hertfordshire


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  20. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Well done Andy

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