Oberfeldwebel at Fallingbostel Stalag Luft VI

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  1. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    The chit displayed below is signed by an Oberfeldwebel Markus ?????????.

    It lists 5 prisoners who on gaining their commissions were transferred from Stalag 357 to Stalag Luft III on 22 January 1945.

    I am curious as to the identity of the Oberfeldwebel Markus and wondered if at Kew there is a listing of prison guards who were at Stalag 357.
    I would also be interested in knowing about the Canadians listed. The first one being Peterson, the second one is Mullock. The third one listed (Layne) was my father who was not Canadian, The fourth one is Cooper and the fifth Leslie.

    Regards, David.

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  2. NickFenton

    NickFenton Well-Known Member

    David,

    Just a matter of correctness, Fallingbostal and Stalag Luft 6 are two different places, l think you mean Hyderkrug, so you may want to change that and l thought your Dad did make it to Fallingbostal and was transfered on from there back to SL 3 on becoming a WO?

    I have looked around Kew for these records you describe but found nothing, only war crime records. It does not appear to have been of much interest after it was all over.

    What do you think the numbers on the left mean?

    Regards,

    Nick
     
  3. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    David,

    Just a matter of correctness, Fallingbostal and Stalag Luft 6 are two different places, l think you mean Hyderkrug, so you may want to change that and l thought your Dad did make it to Fallingbostal and was transfered on from there back to SL 3 on becoming a WO?

    I have looked around Kew for these records you describe but found nothing, only war crime records. It does not appear to have been of much interest after it was all over.

    What do you think the numbers on the left mean?

    Regards,

    Nick

    Thanks Nick, I meant Stalag 357! I imaginethe numbers on the left are hut numbers but I am not sure.
     
  4. NickFenton

    NickFenton Well-Known Member

    David,

    Of course they are, l thought that at first but then discounted it. Well, those l can check out for you and find out who the others were from the nominal role. I should also be able to get that from the liberation questionnaires as well.

    What do you want to know and ill dig it out for you?

    Regards,

    Nick
     
  5. NickFenton

    NickFenton Well-Known Member

    PS David

    Can you change the heading or could one of the Mod Bods do that for us to

    Oberfeldwebel at Fallingbostel Stalag 357
     
  6. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    David,

    Of course they are, l thought that at first but then discounted it. Well, those l can check out for you and find out who the others were from the nominal role. I should also be able to get that from the liberation questionnaires as well.

    What do you want to know and ill dig it out for you?

    Regards,

    Nick

    I was curious as to the history of the Canadians and of course would like to know the full name of the German but I guess that is wishing for too much.
     
  7. NickFenton

    NickFenton Well-Known Member

    OK David,

    Leave it with me to see what l can find out.

    Does anyone else know of any other records of the German Guards?

    Nick
     
  8. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    Thanks Nick.

    It was my understanding that British Intelligence made reports on all P.O.W. camps postwar. These reports would contain a listing of camp staff. The reports were made in order to assertain if war crimes had been committed in preparation for the post war crimes trials.

    I cannot edit the title.
     
  9. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    From Oliver Clutton-Brock's "Footprints On The Sands Of Time" and other sources this is what I have found out about the airman listed on the chit.

    F/S L.E. Peterson J/42490 R.C.A.F. Shot down 15th September 1941 attacking Hamburg in 75 Squadron Wellington X3205 P.O.W. number 9630

    F/S D.G. Mullock J/85379 R.C.A.F. Shot down 25 February 1944 attacking Augsburg in 408 Squadron Lancaster DS 791. P.O.W. number 2194

    W.H. Layne, more can be read in "Wally's War" linked in my signature.

    F/O K.E. Cooper J/20213 R.C.A.F. Shot down 23 September 1943 attacking Mannheim in 78 Squadron Halifax LW273. Captured in Paris 5 January 1944. P.O.W. number 3462 (Footprints states 3463)

    F/S J.G. Leslie J/85407 R.C.A.F. Shot down 20 February 1944 attacking Stuttgart in 35 Squadron Halifax JP121. P.O.W. number 1727
     
  10. NickFenton

    NickFenton Well-Known Member

    David,

    Leave it with me, l will pull out their Liberation Questionnaires and see what l can find.

    From the camp reports l find little info on the German guards unless they did anything nasty but will have a look.

    Nick
     
  11. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    From Oliver Clutton-Brock's "Footprints On The Sands Of Time" and other sources this is what I have found out about the airman listed on the chit.

    F/S L.E. Peterson J/42490 R.C.A.F. Shot down 15th September 1941 attacking Hamburg in 75 Squadron Wellington X3205 P.O.W. number 9630

    F/S D.G. Mullock J/85379 R.C.A.F. Shot down 25 February 1944 attacking Augsburg in 408 Squadron Lancaster DS 791. P.O.W. number 2194

    W.H. Layne, more can be read in "Wally's War" linked in my signature.

    F/O K.E. Cooper J/20213 R.C.A.F. Shot down 23 September 1943 attacking Mannheim in 78 Squadron Halifax LW273. Captured in Paris 5 January 1944. P.O.W. number 3462 (Footprints states 3463)

    F/S J.G. Leslie J/85407 R.C.A.F. Shot down 20 February 1944 attacking Stuttgart in 35 Squadron Halifax JP121. P.O.W. number 1727

    David,

    Lloyd Elroy Peterson, Seattle, Washington

    http://www.rafcommands.com/dcforum/DCForumID6/Data/2773.txt

    A microfilm record which routinely identifies nationality such as American, Argentine,
    etc identifies him as Canadian. Lloyd Elroy Peterson, born 13 May 1913, enlisted
    in Calgary on 2 June 1940.Posted to No.1 ITS, 24 June 1940, promoted LAC on 19 July
    1940, to No.2 AOS on 31 July 1940, to No.2 BGS, 27 October 1940, promoted Sergeant
    on 9 December 1940 and posted to No.1ANS, to RAF overseas,7 February 1941,
    commissioned 14 September 1941, repatriated to Canada 14 May 1945, released 9
    October 1945.And yes, although the record cited above says "Canadian" a card dealing
    with him as POW states that his NOK "mother" was living in Seattle
    Appears to have passed away 1975

    1975-1979 Calgary

    Douglas George Mullock, Vancouver

    http://www.forfreedom.ca/newsletters/2007.pdf

    One of those lost was Lancaster II, Serial DS971, F-Freddie (EQ-F) from our squadron. It had been hit after leaving the target and crashed high up on a mountain rock next to Uhenfels castle near Bad Urach-Seeburg, 120 miles west of Augsburg, where it was seen to explode by an 11-year old schoolboy, Fritz Gross. There was only one survivor, gunner Flight Sergeant Douglas Mullock, who became a Prisoner
    of War (ironically, he died in 1981 in the crash of his small, privately-owned aircraft).
    Kenneth Ellis Cooper, Sheffield, Ontario

    James Gray Leslie, Brantford, Ontario

    City lawyer, politician was 'renaissance man' | Brantford-Brant | News | Brantford Expositor

    A Brantford man whose life experiences could fill volumes died Sunday at the Stedman Community Hospice.


    James "Jim" Gray Leslie was 89.


    He was a soldier, pilot, lawyer, politician, benefactor of animal welfare and world traveller.


    He was also eloquent, insightful, learned and "extremely curious" about the world around him, said longtime friend MP Lloyd St. Amand, who practised law with Mr. Leslie from 1979 to the mid-1980s.


    Mr. Leslie was "a renaissance man" who sought and soaked up knowledge to his last day, ever eager to learn and explore all that was worthy of being explored, St. Amand said.


    Mr. Leslie was born in Edinburgh, Scotland, and was a boy when his family emigrated to Canada in the 1920s, settling first in St. Mary's but later moving to Brantford.


    In 1940, he joined the 2nd Battalion DufferinHaldimand Rifles and later the RCAF as a pilot. He went overseas in 1942.


    Mr. Leslie was flying a bomber near Stuttgart, Germany in February 1944 when he was shot down. He and his crew parachuted into darkness. Mr. Leslie remained a prisoner of war in prison camps in Poland and Germany until war's end.


    Years later, Mr. Leslie was well known and respected for "poignant and touching" annual articles he submitted to The Expositor for Remembrance Day, said St. Amand.


    In 2006, one of Mr. Leslie's last reminiscences related an unusual episode following his capture in 1944.


    Two weeks after my capture, I was turned over to the Luftwaffe where a Luftwaffe sergeant and three soldiers met me at the prison and took me to Frankfurt on Main. We were standing on the station platform at Frankfurt waiting for the train which was to take me to a long imprisonment when a German hausfrau spat upon me screaming "terror flieger! terror flieger!"
    Soon a mob gathered and I was surrounded and then found a rope around my neck.
    At that point, the German sergeant drew his Luger and fired a shot into the air and the three guards fixed their bayonets to their rifles. The crowd then begrudgingly dispersed and I was relieved of the rope. I had bombed Frankfurt twice during the Christmas season of 1943 and understood the outrage of its inhabitants since I remembered London.
    I am now in my 80s and look back with gratitude upon those years accorded to me by that courageous German sergeant and his three soldiers.

    After the war, Mr. Leslie graduated from McMaster University and then studied law at Osgoode Hall and York University.


    He practised law in Brantford for many years, joining the firm of Macdonald Brown, and then set up his own practice in 1961.


    Mr. Leslie was active in politics and a staunch supporter of the Liberal party. He ran for office in 1958 but did not win a federal seat; his party laid low by the landslide victory of popular Conservative Prime Minister John Diefenbaker.


    Mr. Leslie adored animals and, along with Hugh Waterous, founded the Humane Society in Brantford in the 1960s. He served several years as an elected director of the Ontario Humane Society in Toronto.


    His interests were both boundless and bountiful and he travelled widely through Europe, the Middle East and Russia.


    "He was a very intelligent man," said Helen Doctor, of Smokey Hollow Estates, a retirement village geared to independent living and community involvement northeast of Brantford.


    Smokey Hollow sits on privately held native land that has never strayed from the lineage of Doctor's late husband, Les. Mr. Leslie was instrumental in guiding the Doctors through the creation of their haven.


    "He was committed to native history and interested in native rights," Doctor said, adding that Mr. Leslie was extremely civic minded.


    Mr. Leslie's other passions included poetry and membership in clubs, including the Delta Chi Fraternity, Study of Ancient Antiquities, Air Force Club, Halifax Association and the Gold Caterpillar Club. He served as president of the Canadian Club in Brantford and, as a life member of the Brantford Club, he wrote a book chronicling the club's history.


    Mr. Leslie was predeceased by his wife, Katharine, in 1999, and his son, James. He is survived by his stepson Patrick, of Toronto.


    Visitation will be held at the McCleister Funeral Home, 495 Park Rd. N., today from 2 p. m. to 4 p. m. and from 7 p. m. to 9 p. m. A funeral service will be held in the chapel on Thursday at 11:30 a. m. followed by interment in Mount Pleasant Cemetery.




    Regards,

    Dave
     
  12. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    Thanks Dave, I knew you would provide more information.
     
  13. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    I can find nothing on Cooper, I'm afraid, except that a F/Lt Kenneth Ellis Cooper has a file at the Directorate of History and Heritage in Ottawa

    There are also requests for the interrogation of Canadian soldiers who escaped from prisoner of war camps or evaded capture. Includes detailed testimonies on this subject by F/L Kenneth Ellis Cooper, W.J. McCoombs, Sgt. B.C. Lewis, and F/O D.E. Rutherford.

    There is no listing for him in the Sheffield, Ontario telephone directory.

    Davde
     
  14. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    No listing of K.E. Cooper in Oliver Clutton-Brock's "RAF Evaders." There must be a good story out there untold.
     
  15. sirjahn

    sirjahn Member

    Where would these Post-war British Reports on Camps be located in KEW? I am interested for finding more information on FrontStalag 221 W and Rennes Military Hospital in Rennes France.
     
  16. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    Where would these Post-war British Reports on Camps be located in KEW? I am interested for finding more information on FrontStalag 221 W and Rennes Military Hospital in Rennes France.

    I have no idea.
     
  17. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Oberfeldwebel Markus ?????????
    Sorry to disagree so much but I think it's more likely to be "Karl Rüschary* Obfw."

    A candidate list, such as you've already requested, would certainly aid certainty...

    FWIW, Steve

    * or Rüsehary, Rüschany or Rüsehany
     
  18. David Layne

    David Layne Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the suggestion Steve. Marcus was suggested by a German speaking friend but I welcome other possibilities.
     
  19. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    Where would these Post-war British Reports on Camps be located in KEW? I am interested for finding more information on FrontStalag 221 W and Rennes Military Hospital in Rennes France.

    Slim pickings at Kew, sirjahn. For the Rennes Lazarette there is one entitled:

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    Murder of Flight Lieutenant F H Cattermoul, Lazarette German War Hospital and Hotel Dieu, Rennes, France, July 1944
    For FrontStalag221 there are two:

    The National Archives Search Results

    Prisoners of war, Germany: Front Stalag 221, Zweiglacer, France; reports by the International Red Cross . Prisoners of war, Germany: Front Stalag 221, Zweiglacer, France; reports by the International Red Cross War Office: Department of the Permanent Under
    Date: 1942 - 1943
    and

    The National Archives Search Results

    Frontstalag 221 Rennes . Frontstalag 221 Rennes Unnumbered Reports War Office: International Red Cross and Protecting Powers (Geneva): Reports concerning Prisoner of War Camps in Europe and the Far East
    Date: 1943
    Regards,

    Dave
     
  20. NickFenton

    NickFenton Well-Known Member

    David,

    Peterson details.

    Nick
     

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