Who, in their right mind, wants one of these over ones of these ? I'm sorry, I just don't get it? Why?
Well, on a tank you don't need a parachute. Also a tank carries it's own landing strip, now ask a plane to do that. Planes are made to carry tanks, not the other way round.
You fart hard in an airplane, you run the risk of a crash. Hit a bird in an airplane, major damage will ensue with possible high-speed impaction with terra firma. Hit a cow in a tank, it asks, "Did I run just run over something, say an ottoman or a large bowl of potato salad?" It's not hard to understand when you think that airplanes have ejection seats, parachutes and such nonsense. All you need to get out of tank are your legs.
You could try to reach for the best of both worlds but then the Germans would come up with a Fokker Triplane with a Pz I underslung to shoot this down.
I'm sorry i still don't get why anyone wants to be in a 40 ton explosives magnet that goes at what can best be described in WW2 as a crawl and get broiled alive. In an aircraft it goes wrong there is a good chance of getting out. Course it gets interesting after that, but you still have a chance. Goes wrong in a tank chances are you will get cooked. Planes made to carry tanks?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Typhoons anyone?
A couple of questions on this subject During WW2...... How may tanks shot down an aircraft? How many tanks were destroyed by an aircraft? Need I say more?
How may tanks shot down an aircraft? How many tanks were destroyed by an aircraft? Game, set and match!
To be perfectly honest with you, I was just tugging on Kitty's chain. I'm too claustrophobic to EVER want to be in a tank. The few tanks that I have been in were much too confining to ever be a friend of mine.
coward. I'm all for fun with tanks, hell they run over stuff and through stuff. But I'd much rather have an aircraft any day of the week. More skill and finesse required.
Coward? I go into burning buildings when other people, sane I might add, are running out. Everyone has a fear of something, it's just a matter of admitting it.
Game, set, & match my arse. This could run & run. Anyone fancy a solo overfly of my little tank? How many aircraft ever held ground? How many battles have been won with solely aircraft? How many tank-parks were ever overrun by aircraft? How many airfields were ever overrun by tanks? How many aircraft can squash Volvos? How many aircraft can be driven to the supermarket? If anyone's seriously asking me to choose between roasting to a horrible screaming death in a steel box, or plummeting earthwards in a white hot 1000mph streak then they can keep both of 'em. I'd rather be in a nice foxhole somewhere. I don't really see WW2 in terms of "ooh, I'd love to do that" for just about any aspect of it. However, as a ww2 obsessive bloke living in the 21st century, I can aspire to tank/armoured car/land vehicle ownership one day, (12.5k for a T34, £25k for a Stuart, even £100-150k for an M4 could happen) but as I don't own Microsoft then a Spitfire will always be out of my price-range. Once I've got my tank restored, by myself and some other numptys at comparatively modest expense, using relatively conventional engineering, that's it, it's done. No certification/airworthy/traffic control nightmares... I could even just dump it outside for a day or so, and when I get back to it, it'll still be fine. A minor mechanical failure will be as irritating and dangerous as a kind of heavyweight classic car; most often my tank will just stop; "oh dear" I shall say, the flyboys minor failure too often leads to our old friend the 'white hot 1000mph death' scenario, accompanied by "aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggghh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" etc. As for speed, no we'll never compete with the planiacs, but 40mph in a Chaffee while running over a Volvo'll do me. Cheers, Adam. (was this thread suggested to you Kytty?, coincidence as I've been thinking of "why d'you like planes/tanks/gravestones/regimental history/guns?" type threads for a few weeks now, this one's a better title than any I could think of )
How many tanks were destroyed by an aircraft? Game, set and match! Actually if you look at proper statistics of what took for a plane to actually hit and destroy a tank, there weren't that very many instances. Aerial rockets and guns are great on soft-skin vehicles, who can be killed by area fire, near misses can be fatal. On the other hand to actually kill a tank you do have to hit a target smaller than the plane and from the proper aspect. There was a study in the Net by a Dr. John Salt - which I can find no longer - precisely on this matter, based on his research in the PRO. The probabilities for actual hits he gave were quite low, and he made the caveat that the figures he gave were opyimum firing range figures, there was nobody firing back. I suppose it's in some book on Operations Research somewhere, but honestly I can't find anything. Perhaps Tony Williams knows more, but right now I can't provide exact references... I'm going to ask elsewhere and come back later if I get good answers.
:indexCA7C9VES:...................... :m3: It's something like; 5% of rockets came close enough for the vehicle to be in the blast area, and only 5% of that 5% actually did some worthwhile damage isn't it? I think the report link I had used to live here:BritWar - sorry but we are currently closed but it's gone now, I'll have a shufti too. Used to be on my hard drive... Could take some finding There's an interesting RAF after action report surveying exactly what killed tanks in a certain area of Normandy that's covered in ATB's 'Ruckmarsch', softskins or other stuff that can't take the blast suffer badly from airstrikes but fully armoured vehicles, on the whole, were destroyed by other means. In the combative spirit of the thread... Planes may hugely assist the victory, but ground forces actually achieve it. :p
Here's a thought. I know a single round in the transmission or tail rotor of a helicopter can bring it down, Can't imagine a single round taking a tank out.
Once again my wife is asking what I am laughing at and once again I tell her "You wouldn't understand."
Can't imagine a single round taking a tank out. Ooh I dunno, This might just do it: ... Hang on! Who's side am I on here?! Errr... Chieftain Marksman AA prototype; eighteen 35mm shots per second from each Oerlikon, with a hit rate of 52%: and, errr, some Machine guns :mellow:: These damned planes falling out of the sky all the time can be a serious hazard to innocent Motorists & horses you know!: Hmmm. Seem to have gone into a 'picture frenzy'... I'll stop now.
Here's a thought. I know a single round in the transmission or tail rotor of a helicopter can bring it down, Can't imagine a single round taking a tank out. Depends on the size of the single round.
It's something like; 5% of rockets came close enough for the vehicle to be in the blast area, and only 5% of that 5% actually did some worthwhile damage isn't it? I think the report link I had used to live here:BritWar - sorry but we are currently closed but it's gone now, I'll have a shufti too. Used to be on my hard drive... Could take some finding There's an interesting RAF after action report surveying exactly what killed tanks in a certain area of Normandy that's covered in ATB's 'Ruckmarsch', softskins or other stuff that can't take the blast suffer badly from airstrikes but fully armoured vehicles, on the whole, were destroyed by other means. Dans la mouche! Yes, it was in BritWar, it contained the "John Salt's Snippets", that's what it was called, a collection of facts he had taken note of from the PRO. And yes, I also remember that After the Battle about Falaise, with the intact abandoned tanks with the carnage around. The Typhoons massacred the horse drawn vehicles and the soft-skins, and the tank crews scampered off just in case. Nobody had told them about the statistics
Here's a thought. I know a single round in the transmission or tail rotor of a helicopter can bring it down, Can't imagine a single round taking a tank out. Sure it can! Remember the 40mm fitted on the Hurricanes, the 50mm and 75mm fitted to the Hs129 etc, the 37mm fitted to the Il-2. If fired at the correct angle at the side or rear armour they might kill their target. Problem was actually hitting it.
