Possible WW1 era photo - Uniform & Cap Badge ID

Discussion in 'Prewar' started by ClankyPencil, Aug 31, 2019.

  1. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

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  2. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    By gad Sir, I think you've got it.
    I was also thinking KOYLI but couldn't find an image including the Crown!
     
  3. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    Well blow me down, I thought that was a Corporal with a Tate and Lyle on his sleeve! Good job I had my magnifying glass.
    I've been using Ancestry for years fortunately not solely for military research but never realised I could do that for nothing.
    Never really bothered with chevrons as I was interested in the person wearing them and their full set of records to tell me how long they were on active service.
    Don't have many photos of WW1 relatives in uniform but lots of Service Records. Very few Medals, most of them threw them away.
    Learn something every day, Thanks.
     
  4. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Slightly out of focus but its Oxs and Bucks
    ox and bucks.jpg
    Three badges are visually similar (from a distance
    The knotted cord is the giveaway
    Shrops L I has a ribbon with KSLI in centre of the badge,DLI has Crown and DLI in Centre,

    Ox and Bucks for me anyhow :)

    Kyle
     
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  5. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    Using spec savers reading glasses with Magnifying glass and having doubts if it is a horn at all but a scroll like the East Yorks.
    Persistence with no preconceived ideas.
     
  6. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    I have tried to mimic the out of focus badge with the movement shake
    out of focus ox and bucks.jpg

    Ox and Bucks,Final answer :)

    Kyle
     
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  7. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    The regulations specify in several places "within a sphere of active operations" - ie a theatre of war
     
  8. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    I can see your logic but I still feel, on balance, that it's a QVC KOYLI cap badge.
    Posting the image on a specialist Badge Forum might be another way to go?
     
  9. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Now you're misreading the Regulations. All references to "within a sphere of active operations" are preceded by "In the case of Oversea troops". It is there to cover situations where the active operations took part in one own's country. Without checking I should imagine examples, of where this would apply, can be found where African troops were used to repel German incursions into their own country.
    As far as this thread is concerned the point is that, whilst it is extremely likely that the person in the photograph earned his stripes in France or Flanders, it cannot be taken as a fact until other evidence emerges.

    Tim
     
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  10. Pat Atkins

    Pat Atkins Well-Known Member

    I don't know which LI badge that is (intriguing, can see aspects of both DLI and the Queen's crown Yorks - which hardly helps, of course), but I bet someone on GWF will. Worth starting a thread there.

    Cheers, Pat
     
  11. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Compares :
    KOYLI (QVC).png
    K.O.Y.L.I. (Q.V.C.) He looks to be in his 40's and may well be a Boer War veteran?
    OBLI.png
    O.B.L.I.
     
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  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Nice post Guy - leaning towards OBLI - KOYLI badge has its centre filled whereas the photo does not

    TD
     
  13. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

    Just posted the query on there now.

    I'm currently of the same opinion; more leaning to the OBLI than any of the others.
     
  14. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

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  15. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    While I'm still convinced that that's a rose in the centre, I take the point about OBLI but only because the bugle doesn't go far enough upwards to be KOYLI.....except KOYLI had several variations on their badge. 50:50 between the two in my mind.
     

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