Pte William Kitchener Howell 6348751 SAS

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  1. hi, I just found out one of my uncles,killed in Italy 1943 is listed as SAS, [royal west kents ] Buried in Bari cem. Pte william kitchener Howell, 6358751.
    cannot find out much at all about him, not service history, death.
    all I found was that his name was recently added to the war memorial in bromley kent after being left off for some reason.
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Have you seen this ?https://www.specialforcesroh.com/index.php?threads/howell-william-kitchener.2713/3
    Has a photo of him & some more info.

    Gives unit as Special Raiding Squadron (1 Troop)
    KIA Bagnara,Italy
     
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  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    apply for his service records details in the link below
    Get a copy of military service records
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    Pvt William Kitchener Howell (1915-1943) - Find A...
     
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  4. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Think that you may have an incorrect service number, should be 6348751.
    Casualty Details | CWGC

    Casualty list gives his unit as "Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment - Posted 1 S.A.S. regt". Along side him is 6345605 Pte T A Parris, same details, that could suggest they died together.

    You will not find his service history online, only available from one source:
    Get a copy of military service records
     
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  5. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

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  6. Chaps that is brilliant thank you.
    Tony 56, yes, number is wrong, I am badly number dyslexic.happens a lot.

    Owen I can't open that link though.

    What a nice looking lad, I have barely any family history so this is super stuff.
    I also have an Uncle in Tobruk somewhere, only got a pic of his first grave marker.
    My dad was 8th army, middx regt, alamein to italy, sicily, cassino, mention in despatches at anzio
    never talked. mostly found out after he died.
     
  7. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Go up to the address in your browser and knock off the 3 at the end or just put his name in the search box.
     
  8. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Welcome aboard. Others may come along and help. Always apply for his Service Record, even if the turnaround is reported as a year plus now. See: Get a copy of military service records Upload the records here once you've obtained them and then the forum can get to work on them.

    Please do not pay for any site on the internet who promise you his service records they will not have them, and you would have wasted your money.

    Adding what you have already found can help, saves others from duplication.

    I have noted the 'Other Ranks' rarely feature in Google searches unless they have been awarded gallantry medals or written their memoirs.

    Searching Google will sometimes bring you back here. You must be agile and keep going.

    War diaries can contain almost anything. At the very least, they give the daily movements and most important actions of every unit. They may also contain information on casualties, message logs, rolls of officers (but not O.R.'s), maps, orders, and much else. They are available at the PRO to everyone. Drew5233 and some others are willing to scan them for the benefit of those who cannot get to the National Archives at Kew.

    It depends of course how much you want to know, just one battle or campaign for an example.

    Please come back and tell us what you found. Scanning threads it is clear some discover the site years after your posts and add their information or request help. Good luck.
     
  9. thank you all for the advice. I only just discovered that man in my mothers line, her mother died very young pre 1939, when mum was 13, so she never really got to discover her family , her father was an arse, so nothing from. there. All I knew personaly was my great Uncle Charlie who was badly gassed and a bit daft later, poor old sod.
    If i come up with any detail I will certainly post it.
     
  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    From Gavin Mortimers book:

    SAS in World War II : an illustrated history

    A cluster of mortar bombs landed close to where Bill Fraser had established his Troop HQ, killing two of his signallers, Charlie Richards and William Howell

    TD
    A copy of another Gavin Mortimer book - The SAS in World War II - he is referenced twice as below (hopefully)
    The SAS in World War II
     
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