Railway guns.

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by angeljoanes, Jul 8, 2007.

  1. Jan7

    Jan7 Senior Member

    A great collection of articles about the theme: Dora, the world's largest railway gun

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    Seem a faraonic matter with a big compilation of resources, technics and humans in a extensive and intrincated development means the railway......[​IMG]



    Jan.
     
  2. MLW

    MLW Senior Member

    As far as I know, all that remains today are a few 80cm rounds. There is one at the US Army Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground and another at Militärhistorisches Dresden. There may be other rounds somewhere else for all I know.

    In fact, only a handful of WWI and WWII railway guns remain today. Three are located in the United States, one in France, and three in Russia. There are also various pieces (i.e., barrels and mounts) of railway guns in Europe. For some time, I have been trying to identify all that remain.
     
  3. jwp59

    jwp59 Member

  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    As far as I know, all that remains today are a few 80cm rounds. There is one at the US Army Ordnance Museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground and another at Militärhistorisches Dresden. There may be other rounds somewhere else for all I know.
    There seemed to be a small 'flood' of Dora Shell-cases onto the collector market last year, with one for sale at Beltring, and examples turning up in private collections. I've no idea where they came from though.

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  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    (Merged several disparate Railway gun related threads into one)

    Interesting Germanic writing on the side of this Spanish railway Gun in September 1948:
    spanish rail gun 1948.jpg
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    I can't quite fit the gun or carriage exactly to any WW2 german type though?
    Special manufacture?
    Prewar?
    Postwar? (Can't quite see Germany being allowed to churn out guns for Franco after the war, but who knows...)
     
  6. Jan7

    Jan7 Senior Member

    Dear Adam:

    Possibly a special manufacture.....

    I'm a fan of railways/trains and the Railroad Gauge Width is diferent. As you could seen in this page http://parovoz.com/spravka/gauges-en.php


    1 435 mm 4' 8 1/2" Known as "Standard (Stephenson) gauge"


    1 668 mm/1 674 mm 5' 5 2/3" Known as "Iberian gauge". Equal to one "braza" - and old Spanish measure.




    Jan.
     
  7. Jan7

    Jan7 Senior Member

  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    from 'Life'
    22 men of US Seventh Army easily standing lined up on barrel of mammoth 274-mm railroad gun captured in advance, during WWII. Rentwertshausen, Germany. April 1945.
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  9. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

    12" Howitzers mounted on railway mountings.
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    From a 1941 publication, 'Engines of War, the mechanised Army in action'
     
  10. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Now those are big recuperators... but big enough?
    Not sure I'd fancy standing behind all three of 'em firing, can anyone spot any outriggers?
     
  11. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    The French Army traveling on an armed piece of equipment.
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  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  13. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    What about a caption or two, Gov? :)
     
  14. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    It that one a life size scale Phil :lol:
     
  16. dovermarine

    dovermarine Senior Member

    So is 'Boche-buster' the one as it seems to be in Kent?
    Brief coverage here:
    World War II

    Appears that the name was also carried by a WW1 piece (might be the same gun? but the calibres listed are different.)
    The King's Shot af Jeff Dorman

    Anyone know what this German piece around Vire that Sapper refers to might have been? Presumably a K5?

    Cheers,
    Adam.
    Hi, I have just received a magazine from afterthebattle.com that I sent for about the cross channel guns around Kent and the Pas de Calais,includinding railway guns.It has a report in it about Major Cleeve, who fired the Kings shot, Bochebuster, in WW1, and who at the outbreak of WW2 was the only serving officer with experiance of railway guns.He was tasked with finding the WW1 rail mountings and to set up a Super Heavy Artillery school at Catterick.He found BB in a transport shed stored since 1920. It was refitted with an 18" barrel and saw service just outside Canterbury, Derek.
     
  17. Formerjughead

    Formerjughead Senior Member

    There seemed to be a small 'flood' of Dora Shell-cases onto the collector market last year, with one for sale at Beltring, and examples turning up in private collections. I've no idea where they came from though.



    Seems like a that would have been a tremendous waste of brass. Why didn't they use powder bags?
     
  18. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Seems like a that would have been a tremendous waste of brass. Why didn't they use powder bags?

    Thats a good question.

    The large calibre naval guns operated with cordite bags.

    I wonder if any of our resident ordnace experts can reply?

    Regards
    Tom
     
  19. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    The thing was about the size of a mate of mine:
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    I imagine bags that size would just be too complex/difficult a thing to lug around by hoist - In an already slightly crazy world where each shell is numbered and slightly larger than the last I guess the Brass cases were just an inevitability.
     
  20. Miguel B.

    Miguel B. Member

    Damn (not the first word that crossed my mind)... The bell from my local Parish is smaller than that...




    cheers
     

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