Ranchi Cemetery India - WJ Batchelor

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  1. jamesday

    jamesday Junior Member

    I am researching William John Batchelor RA Gunner 1827534 buried in Ranchi. Died 17/5/43. Buried in Plot 1 Row F Grave 8. To his right (F7) is Gnr. A Greet RA 9th Fld Rg. died 10/5/43. To his left (F9) Lt. W Sweby RAMC died 19/5/43. Grave F6 F Falconer Queens Royal Regt. died 2/5/43. Grave F5 C Young RA 51 Fld Reg. died 28/4/43

    This being plot 1, should I be correct to assume that the burial was soon after the man's death, rather than being concentration burials after the war?

    Also being widely spaced, should I assume they were deaths from illness or injury in hospital?

    Could the RA deaths be related from the same military action somewhere? Did those units fight together somewhere prior to end of April 43?

    Many thanks for your ideas.
     
  2. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Hello Jamesday and welcome to the forums. Best of luck in your query! :D
     
  3. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    Hi Jamesday + Welcome.
    Here are the 2 RA Field Regts in 43.
    Rob.

    9th Field Regt RA
    1942-43 India 39th + 20th Ind Div.
    1943-45 Burma 20th Ind Div.

    51st (Westmorland+Cumberland Yeo) Field Regt RA.
    1942-43 Ceylon, India 16th Inf Bde, 34th Idn + 70th Inf Div.
    1943-44 India Special Forces.

    They both served together in RANCHI.
    The 9th were in HAZARIBAGH in Mar 43,RANCHI in Aug 43 and the 51st RANCHI in Feb 43-on
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hi James and welcome to the forum.
     
  5. jamesday

    jamesday Junior Member

    Thank you Rob.
    So both units were based in or near (50 miles or so) Ranchi. There was no fighting going on in the area as it was the HQ miles from the action in Burma. There was no great stream of casualties coming in with large numbers of deaths.
    So to me it looks like they succumbed to illnesses which were very prevalent at the time I believe.
    Does this seem a reasonable theory?
    thanks
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Have you read this?
    CWGC :: Cemetery Details

    The cemetery was begun on 1 June 1942 by the army, and used until the end of the war. Afterwards graves from isolated positions and small inaccessible cemeteries were brought in, and in 1952, more than 200 graves were transferred to the cemetery from twelve civil cemeteries. Ranchi is the smallest 'concentration' cemetery in India.
     
  7. jamesday

    jamesday Junior Member

    Hi All
    I managed to track down his daughter who was 5 when he died. Apparently he caught smallpox on the troopship on the way out to India, became very ill and died soon after landing there. Smallpox seems to have been much more common then. Perhaps he caught it on one of the shore leave jaunts during a stopover in Africa.
     
  8. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum

    Cheers
    Paul
     
  9. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    Grave F5
    C Young
    RA 51 Fld Reg.
    died 28/4/43

    James, the 51st Field regt, ended up serving as Chindits as an Infantry Regt, along side 69th Field Regt, but I think from previous research that Ive done it was after this date of death.

    51 (Westmorland & Cumberland Yeo) Field Regt, who were transfered to To 51st Column in 10/43, and are listed as serving as follows

    Carlisle 1938 - 42 Div
    UK 1939-40 - 42, 46 Inf Divs
    Norway 1940 (1 bty)
    N Africa 1940-1 - W Desert Force (13 Corps Troops & 6 Aust Div)
    Tobruk 1941 - 9 Aust Inf Div
    N Africa 1941 - 8 Army Troops (Army Fd Regt)
    Ceylon, India 1942-3 - 16 Inf Bde, 34 Indian & 70 Inf Divs
    India 1943-4 - Special Force
    Burma 1944 - 51 Colm 16 LRP Bde (Chindits)

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/allied-units/22208-51st-bty-69th-field-regiment-royal-artillery.html

    Gunner C Young, R.A. Listed as having Died (probably illness me thinks) The Times, Friday, Jun 30, 1944; pg. 7; Issue 49896; col E

    http://callisto.ggsrv.com/imgsrv/Fetch?banner=4b51718f&digest=317afccc1418db4e48535e5c8f8a2dfe&contentSet=LT&recordID=0FFO-1944-JUN30-007-F&highlight=ff99ff+1+3047+5267+100+30+3140+5269+71+27&format=png&scale=0.330&crop=906+35+230+2023
     
  10. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    The Times, Monday, Oct 25, 1943; pg. 6; Issue 49685; col F

    http://callisto.ggsrv.com/imgsrv/Fetch?banner=4b51718f&digest=317afccc1418db4e48535e5c8f8a2dfe&contentSet=LT&recordID=0FFO-1943-OCT25-006-F&highlight=ff99ff+1+3822+5417+139+32+3955+5417+73+33&format=png&scale=0.330&crop=1194+34+244+2129
     
  11. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    The Times, Tuesday, Dec 21, 1943; pg. 8; Issue 49734; col D

    http://callisto.ggsrv.com/imgsrv/Fetch?banner=4b517460&digest=0e98dcbac1054add5d8a3e6536e9df34&contentSet=LT&recordID=0FFO-1943-DEC21-008-F&highlight=ff99ff+1+2560+5415+95+34+2647+5415+125+34&format=png&scale=0.330&crop=709+45+253+2277
     
  12. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    Nothing for Sweby or Falconer, but it does look like all died rather than killed or Died of wounds
     
  13. jamesday

    jamesday Junior Member

    Phil
    Very many thanks for that Times entry. Hadn't found that yet.
    Got the death cert. yesterday and it was definitely smallpox.
     
  14. tpickup

    tpickup Member

    hi I'm looking for information on

    LONGSHAW, JAMES

    Service Number 3859444

    Died 10/04/1943
    Aged 25
    1st Bn.
    North Staffordshire Regiment

    Buried in Ranchi Plot 1.e.6
     

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