Royal Artillery Victims of Newtownards Air Raid?

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  1. ww2ni

    ww2ni Senior Member

    I am currently attempting to have a memorial erected in Newtownards to the Young Soldiers who were killed during a German Air Raid on Newtownards Airfield on 15th / 16th April 1941.

    I am presently aware of the deaths of 13 soldiers of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers however I was told today that there may have been 2 Royal Artillery personel who were gunners at the Airfield and who were also killed.

    This is an important issue for me to clarify and any information anyone can provide regarding Royal Artillery personel caught in the Newtownards Air Raid would be very much appreciated.
     
  2. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    CWGC Results of search for all RA personnel who died on those 2 days
    (using Geoff's search engine)


    001 BOAST JH 806108 - 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    002 BROWN JE 1065795 - 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    003 CHINN CJ 3958213 452 BTY 67 6TH BN THE WELCH REGT SEARCHLIGHT REGT 15/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    004 COOK AE 1430360 162 BTY, 54 HAA REGT 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    005 COOPER AE 1660901 59 MEDIUM REGT 15/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    006 FARWELL CW 858495 522 COAST REGT 15/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    007 HARKNESS R 766863 74 FIELD REGT 15/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    008 LEE A 4527769 395 BTY, 49 6TH BN THE WEST YORKSHIRE REGT SEARCHLIGHT REGT 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    009 LEOPOLD A 1601396 509 BTY, 81 SEARCHLIGHT REGT 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    010 PEPPER AP 995927 9 DEFENCE REGT 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    011 PINNOCK RRJ 999962 150 FIELD REGT 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    *012 RIDDLE JS 327169 102 THE NORTHUMBERLAND HUSSARS LT AA/ANTI TANK REGT 15/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    013 ROGERS PSC 159102 - 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    014 SMITH J 1692572 237 BTY, 76 HAA REGT 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    015 SUTCLIFFE RD 49705 CDG 69 10TH BN THE ROYAL FUSILIERS [CITY OF LONDON REGT] SEARCHLIGHT REGT 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    016 WELLS AW 1650862 475 BTY, 2 SEARCHLIGHT REGT 15/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY
    017 WYLIE R 144995 955 INDEPT DEFENCE BTY 15/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY

    *Athens Memorial


     
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  3. ww2ni

    ww2ni Senior Member

    Cracking.

    I will make some approaches to the individual units to try and find if they were operating in Newtownards.

    Things appear to be moving in the right direction!!

    Thanks
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Hello
    Scanned this in from The Blitz Then and Now Volume 2 thought it might be of interest.
     

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  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    both show casualties between 16/17 although a day later
    possibly a red herring

    Bombardier HERBERT CHARLES PENNY (photo attached)

    2084882, Royal Artillery
    who died age 28
    between 16 April 1941 and 17 April 1941
    Son of Mary Ann Penny and stepson of Thomas Percy Roberts.
    Remembered with honour
    ST. PANCRAS CEMETERY

    plus
    Bombardier GEORGE A. STUTTARD

    779205, Royal Artillery
    who died age 30
    between 16 April 1941 and 17 April 1941
    Son of James and Frances Stuttard, of Liverpool.
    Remembered with honour
    LIVERPOOL (ANFIELD) CEMETERY
     

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  6. samboast

    samboast Member


    Hello I think that James Boast was my grandfather - where did you locate these records please?
     
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  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  8. samboast

    samboast Member

    Oh wow, that is amazing. I think that is him. I don't understand why he was in Belfast and have found some records which suggest he was in the 31st Rgmt - signals but that doesn't match. My father was a baby when he died and never knew his Father. We were told he died on a train traveling home, but my Grandmother remarried and I am not sure it was a welcome topic of discussion.
    I'll apply for his records as you suggest.
    Thank you so much,
    Samantha
     
  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Samantha do you have more detail, if your not sure forum members might be able to confirm he was your Grandfather

    regards
    Clive
     
  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: James Boast
    Given Initials: J H
    Rank: Bombardier
    Death Date: 16 Apr 1941
    Number: 806108
    Birth Place: London E
    Residence: London E
    Regiment at Enlistment: Royal Artillery
    Branch at Enlistment: Royal Artillery
    Theatre of War: United Kingdom
    Regiment at Death: Royal Artillery
    Branch at Death: Royal Artillery


    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: James H Boast
    Death Age: 29
    Birth Date: abt 1912
    Registration Date: Jun 1941
    Registration district: Camberwell
    Inferred County: London
    Volume: 1d
    Page: 972

    I would suggest from the above he died somewhere near Camberwell

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
    Name: James H Boast
    Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1938
    Registration district: Camberwell
    Inferred County: Surrey
    Spouse: Ruby F Groves
    Volume Number: 1d
    Page Number: 1901

    Does a grandmother called Ruby ring any bells??

    TD
     
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  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I would suggest children from this marriage are:

    Helen F Boast Oct-Nov-Dec 1938 Lambeth London

    Alan J Boast Jan-Feb-Mar 1940 Colchester Essex, Suffolk

    TD

    edited to add:
    England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2015
    Name: Mr Alan James Boast
    Gender: Male
    Age: 70
    Birth Date: 16 Jan 1940
    Death Date: 1 May 2010
    Residence Place at Death: Bromley, England
    Postal Code District: Br2
     
  12. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    806108 BOAST James Henry Bdr. 31st Signal Training Regiment
    Born : 1912 Stepney
    Residing : Hackney
    Enlisted in the Royal Artillery in 1930
    Transferred to the Army Reserve 23.4.1937
    Died 16.4.1941
    As TD posted, his death was registered in Camberwell
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  13. samboast

    samboast Member

    Hi

    Thanks for the information, my grandmother was Ruby.

    I was told that he died on a train on the way home so was uncertain about the Belfast connection.

    I'll apply for his service records I think but I assume that the memorial is sorry is probably for him still.

    The slight problem is that the birth certificate I found was was a Henry James 2 years earlier, but all the boast men are a tad vain and fib about their age! And I do think he used James as his name..

    I's really like to understand the circumstances of his death.
    Thanks for your help
    Samantha
     
  14. jonheyworth

    jonheyworth Senior Member

    It's unusual to be listed in the Brookwood Memorial.
     
  15. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    He would be listed on Brookwood Memorial if his body was not found after his confirmed death.
    You really need to get more detail from the family to make sure it is the right person.
    There isnt a Belfast connection the list is of Royal Artillery persons that died on those 2 days.
    If it is him then you could apply for his death certificate which would give reasons on death
    BOAST, JAMES HENRY 29 [​IMG]
    GRO Reference: 1941 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 972

    for info Boast casualties during WW2
    001 BOAST GH 14707616 7TH BN 07/09/1944 SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS VI. A. 19.
    002 BOAST AJ 3856285 2ND BN 09/06/1943 THE LOYAL REGIMENT (NORTH LANCASHIRE) 7. D. 7.
    003 BOAST WJ - STEAM TRAWLER CHARMOUTH MILFORD HAVEN 14/11/1946 FISHING FLEET PANEL 124.
    004 BOAST RTV - - 06/11/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    005 BOAST JH 806108 - 16/04/1941 ROYAL ARTILLERY PANEL 2. COLUMN 3.
    006 BOAST HF 11430027 99 BTY, 18 LT AA REGT 03/04/1944 ROYAL ARTILLERY VIII. E. 7.
    007 BOAST WEH 749598 99 SQDN 18/12/1940 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE SEC. N. GRAVE 113.
     
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  16. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Searching this database - All UK, WWII Civilian Deaths, 1939-1945 Results - specifically for the date 16th April 1941 in London alone results in 492 hits, so there was some fairly large incident happening that day.

    TD
     
  17. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    I checked the names from DBF's list in #2. They all have Royal Artillery casualty cards, not one records a place or cause of death.
     
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  18. samboast

    samboast Member

    Hi there is nobody in the family with information. My Dad had only one true sibling and she is not alive, My Dad, Alan James Boast, has also passed but he was told nothing as my Grandmother entered into a new relationship quickly, so it was explained.

    I'll follow your recommendations and get the death certificate and service records.

    It would simply be nice to know, I am one of three and we know nothing of the Boast element of our history but I'm learning more and more with all of your help, so thank you.

    I'm not that informed about military history but learning more every day and would love to know something about him.

    Thank you all so much.
    Samantha
     
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  19. samboast

    samboast Member

    Thank you. There was the blitz in Berlin that day...
     
  20. samboast

    samboast Member

    Yes I saw that also but I am not so confident about my searching skills, learning as I go!
    Thank you for hour efforts
    Samantha
     

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