Sd.Kfz. 300 & Other Remote Control Vehicles.

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Bodston, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. Gunpowder

    Gunpowder Junior Member

    Great image of all the wrecked Goliaths.
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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    I wonder if they have been washing their socks in it ?
     
  3. Gunpowder

    Gunpowder Junior Member

    Nice photo, but I wonder how that Goliath got down to the beach.
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Nice photo, but I wonder how that Goliath got down to the beach.

    There's a photo doing the rounds whith about five on the beach being examined by US Engineers....I suspect the Americans took them there to be shipped to the UK for further examination.

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  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Just read an oblique reference to Adolphe Kegresse (he of halftrack and Autoserve transmission fame) working on 'guided bombs' in 1939. - A quick Google refers to captured examples of what he was doing feeding into Goliath development. unsure of the slim references I've found there (all seem to use the same wording, so presumably single-source), does anyone have anything more concrete on Kegresse's 'Guided bomb' work?
    I'd be fascinated to see if a picture survived, or to confirm that the French were the originators of Radio/wire-controlled small tracked explosive devices.

    This from The Freeper Foxhole:
    In the year 1940 a small demolition carrier, which was developed by the french manufacturer Kegresse, was sunk in the Seine and recovered by the germans, who explored it detailed.

    ~A
     
  6. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

    Just read an oblique reference to Adolphe Kegresse (he of halftrack and Autoserve transmission fame) working on 'guided bombs' in 1939. - A quick Google refers to captured examples of what he was doing feeding into Goliath development. unsure of the slim references I've found there (all seem to use the same wording, so presumably single-source), does anyone have anything more concrete on Kegresse's 'Guided bomb' work?
    I'd be fascinated to see if a picture survived, or to confirm that the French were the originators of Radio/wire-controlled small tracked explosive devices.

    This from The Freeper Foxhole:


    ~A

    I posted a piccie on this thread of a French example (post #21) Vehicle Pommellet or spookily, the VP series. Jedsite seems to be down at the moment though. Googling 'Vehicle Pommellet' found this Did you know that these kind of radioguided or filoguided vehicles transporting a destruction charge was also developped by the French army before the Germans had their Goliath, Springer or Borgward B.IV dedicated to that function ?
    In 1940 the Germans used a few Panzer I Ladungsträger.

    In 1937-1940 the French army developped :
    - the "véhicule P (P for Pommellet, the captain who invented it)" : constructed by Lorraine, 2000 ordered but only 11 constructed before the armistice
    - the "engin K" (K for Alphonse Kégresse, the constructor) : 12000 vehicles ordered (6000 in April 1940, 6000 in May 1940), precursor of the Goliath
    - In April 1940, 300 FT-17 tanks are also destined to be transformed in guided tanks (guided from a ground post or from a R-35 command tank, like later the Borgward and the Stug(Fkl) for example)

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  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Duhhh... oh yeah, cheers mate.
    I found a new one. French this time. Vehicle Pommellet

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    Now found this on AHF:
    In 1937-1940 the French army developed :
    • The "véhicule P" (P for Pommellet, the captain who invented it) : constructed by Lorraine, 2,000 ordered but only 11 constructed before the armistice
    • The "engin K" (K for Alphonse Kégresse, the constructor) : 12,000 vehicles ordered (6,000 in April 1940, 6,000 in May 1940), precursor of the Goliath which was built later based on this French vehicle.

    So now need to find out which french vehicle that one is for certain, the P-Pommelet, or K-Kegresse.
     
  8. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

    1504286575_wickersham-land-torpedo.jpeg

    Is this the first?

    an E.E. Wickersham land torpedo of c.1917. Possibly battery powered?
     
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  9. Jan7

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  11. Jan7

    Jan7 Senior Member

    I believe the later variants were driven to the location required and then the driver retired and used radio control from a safe distance!

    Otherwise it would have been a suicidal to drive it into a minefield.

    Regards
    Tom

    Anyone of this thread could post any information or photos of these devices?


    Thanks in advance.



    Jan.
     
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  16. von Poop

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    I'd not seen this one before - I do hope they're all de-armed.:
    goliath-1.jpg

    (From a Friendface group which is full of caption-fodder, so I'll keep schtumm for the mo - seems likely to be US NA in origin?)
     
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  17. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Wow. Excellent. All this time I thought they were very rare.

    I think my earliest museum memory is seeing the one in the West Point museum when I was very young.
     
  18. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Have we had this?
    Cracking little video added to Youtube by Lone Sentry.

     
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  19. InSovietRussia

    InSovietRussia New Member

    there was an experimental small remote control tank that was packed full of explosives and sent a tanks call the Goliath look it up on google images. (Sd.Kfz. 302/303a/303b)
     
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