shaking tower

Discussion in 'General' started by Heb52, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. Heb52

    Heb52 53rd

    my father was with the 53rd welsh . he told me he was in a tower which was shaking any ideas please
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I've split your post from another thread.
    It might be an idea to learn how to start a new thread rather than post in one unrelated to it.
    Could we have more context to the tower, was he under fire?
    Was he in the UK or abroad, what time of year etc?
     
  3. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

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  4. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    In some English dialects shaking/trembling/etc can also mean shivering. Winter time on the Tower Fort at Shivering Sands?
     
  5. BrianM59

    BrianM59 Senior Member

    There are some geniuses on this forum mate, and unfailingly polite, friendly and resourceful they are too, but they need some help from you. It's a bit much to post a sentence and expect an answer. Please try to find out all you can yourself before asking other people vague questions.
     
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  6. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  7. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    As above with knobs on!
    The more help you give us, the more we can (and want!) to help you!
    How would you react if someone came up to you in the street and asked just what you did?

    To save others the task, here is what seems to be some information from a previous post of yours.
    Well, unfortunately, this is what you'll find for him...
    ELLIOTT, DONALD JAMES. Rank: Gunner. Service No: 936159. Date of Death: 12/11/1945. Age: 27.
    Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery 208 Field Regt.
    Grave Reference: 12. H. 26. Cemetery: TRIPOLI WAR CEMETERY.
    Additional Information: Son of James and Eleanor Elliott, of Tottenham Middlesex.

    another similar Service Number is

    BROWN, ROY. Rank: Gunner. Service No: 936033. Date of Death: 17/04/1945. Age: 27.
    Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery 73 Medium Regt.
    Grave Reference: II, A, 22. Cemetery: ARGENTA GAP WAR CEMETERY.
    Additional Information: Son of Ernest and Annie Brown, of Moss Side, Manchester.


    So, presumably you will be obtaining your fathers Service Records, as recommended?
    I take it the name is also Birchall?

    Your father looks to have been in the Royal Artillery, but only his records will give you chapter and verse.
    We'd have to assume it was somehow connected to the 53rd Welsh Division from the scraps of info provided.

    They'll tell you who and where he served. Don't worry about acronyms, we can solve most of them and get a fairly good idea for you once you've got them

    Do you have your fathers medals?
     
  8. Heb52

    Heb52 53rd

    hi, my father was in the 6th field regiment royal artillery, gnr/sigs embarked uk 3rd june 1944, wounded 30th oct 1944 NWE, he was in herne bay from 22nd june untill ? then posted to 74th battery maidstone 4th jan 1943,in one form it shows A rank gunner, cant make it out, D8 OR DR,then B service trade DR OP ,is op observation post? thanks .
     
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  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    DR OP = Driver Operator .

    Please can you not quote another members post & not reply to it .
    I've merged 3 posts you've made & 2 of them were just quotes of other members posts.
    Cheers.
     
  10. Heb52

    Heb52 53rd

    which posts did i quote from . i am not ex army and i am useless with technolgy,could you explain more about what my father ,operated,as in driver operator
     
  11. Incredibledisc

    Incredibledisc Well-Known Member

    When you click "reply" to a person's message (on the right of the textbox) it will include a copy of their message in your post. Just like I've done here.
     
  12. Incredibledisc

    Incredibledisc Well-Known Member

    If you click "quote" it allows you to copy and paste messages from multiple members into one reply - you may have done it without realising. Its handy to be able to do this as you may be replying to several points at once. If you quote a member in a message they get a notification telling them that you have done so. In this case you didn't actually make any comment on what the others had written so they will be a bit puzzled as to why you are quoting them but not actually referencing their message.

    Stick with it - it gets easier the more you do it.
     
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  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    see this reply from an ex-gunner.
    click the link
    10th Medium Regt (RF) RA

     
  14. Incredibledisc

    Incredibledisc Well-Known Member

    From reading one of your messages above it sounds as if you might have a copy of your father's service records. If you could post some photos of these that would help people here explain all the acronyms etc which might help you understand the information better. I usually use the camera on my phone and then upload via my ipad or laptop. If there are a lot of pages it might be easier to start a gallery and link to them. If your not very tech savvy just ask and I'm sure someone can give you some fairly straightforward advice on how to do this.
     
  15. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Is this your father?
    936020 BIRCHALL Henry Edward enlisted in the Royal Artillery in 1939.

    BIRCHALL.png
     
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  16. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    "he was in herne bay from 22nd june untill ? then posted to 74th battery maidstone 4th jan 1943"

    You mention Herne Bay, this may be the connection to Shivering Sands Fort that Ross mentioned in #3?

    Shivering Sands Army Fort - Wikipedia
     
  17. Heb52

    Heb52 53rd

    When I was a child I asked my father about a arm wound. he told me it was red hot metal from a bomb.shrapnel, he also talked about a rocking or shaking tower.that's all he ever talked about oh and also a very large dog bigger than him.did operators work with forward observers and did observers use towers? That might be the towers. The ones at Herne bay would not have shook unless there were bombs dropped in the time he was there or big storms.thanks for all the info .heb
     
  18. Heb52

    Heb52 53rd

    yes that is my father birchall . I am using a tablet to reply and pressed the quote by mistake .sorry about that l will try to photograph the records and send them
     
  19. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    As you've signed off as heb, presumably that confirms the link to 936020 Henry Edward Birchall.
    Read this Wiki entry and see if it fits with his Service Record 6th Regiment, Royal Horse Artillery - Wikipedia
    With the reference to Herne Bay, it seems likely that the inspired guess as Shivering Sands being one of his postings to the Maunsell forts off Herne Bay Maunsell Forts - Wikipedia was indeed correct, and that it wasn't an observation post shaking (if it was, then there's likely to be thousands of temporary and precarious perches used!)

    You may be useless with technology but you should still be able to answer questions asked of you, not just keep asking more questions when you give us no clarification.
    Come on, we're trying to help, but you give very little back.
     
  20. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

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