South African POW Vivian Vickers

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  1. Evthomas

    Evthomas New Member

    I am trying to find out where my father Vivian Vickers - (South African) was taken to once he was a POW .
    I think he was a Staff Sargeant in the Medics .
    His service number was either 103513 or 103613 (taken from the back of his medals)
    I know he was somewhere in Italy at one stage but could have been taken elsewhere after that. I only have records of him in North Africa in Capuzzo Dec 1941-Jan1942 and Bardia Jan1942.
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi evthomas

    Welcome to the forum.

    The info for him as a POW in Germany is :
    V Vickers in the UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945


    Name: V Vickers
    Rank: S/Sgt.
    Army Number: 103513
    POW Number: 223540
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: 4B
    Camp Location: Muhlberg (Elbe), Germany
    Section: South African Land Forces : Officers and Other Ranks

    He may also have information as a POW in Italy which I do not have, but I am sure others will have

    TD

    edited to add:
    Is this the same man - from an Ancestry family tree


    Vivian Vickers
    1917–1983
    BIRTH 07 FEB 1917 • Durban, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
    DEATH 19 AUG 1983 • Durban, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
     
  3. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Hi,

    He appears in the listing WO392/21, a file held in the British National Archives; as being held at Camp 85, Tuturano near Brindisi.

    This listing gives the location of POW's as of August 1943. It is known to contain errors, but I thought you would like to see your father's entry, here:

    SA 11.JPG

    Of course, he could well of been held at other camps before August 1943. Hopefully, other forum members with more detailed knowledge will be along shortly to help further.

    Good luck going forward.

    Steve
     
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  4. Evthomas

    Evthomas New Member

    Thank you both so much for your quick response, I am overwhelmed by the amount of information you have given me in such a short time. I have only just started researching my father's journey, and am amazed that with the small amount of information I had, I have received so much from you.

    Yes this is indeed my father who was born and died in Durban , South Africa.
    My eldest brother was of the opinion that my father was a POW in Italy, Germany and then he was under the impression that he may have been in Russia. I am not sure if that is possible.

    Ev
     
  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi Ev

    The Russian connection is a possibility. Late 1944 and into 1945 the Russians were battling/driving westwards and did free some POW camps, these repatriated POW's were then either shipped to Odessa before shipping back to UK or their home country, or were handed back to the Allies at the end of hostilities in a 'swap' for Russians that were in Allied hands.

    TD
     
  6. Evthomas

    Evthomas New Member

    Thank you for that TD, I will look into that. I know a great Aunt looked after my father in the UK until he was strong enough to return to South Africa. She didnt want my mother to see how emaciated he had become.

    Ev
     
  7. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    You also need to keep an eye on the Red Cross website as they are part way through a digitisation project to make WW2 records searchable for free on the internet - same as WW1 records in 2014.

    Your father may have completed a Liberated POW Questionnaire on his arrival in UK. They are not available on the internet - only hard copies on UK National Archives - but some members offer a look up service. If required I suggest you start a new topic.

    Good Luck

    Steve Y
     
  8. NickFenton

    NickFenton Well-Known Member

    I have him on my list for my next visit to Kew in a couple of weeks time and will pull his Liberation Questionnaire as this will give you most of the info you need to start with.

    I do have to tell you that not everyone completed one and l have not had much luck with South African POW's over the years.

    Regards,

    Nick
     
  9. Evthomas

    Evthomas New Member

    Thanks for your advice Steve, I will go onto the Red Cross Website and see what I can find.

    Nick, I look forward to hearing from you as to whether he did fill out a Liberation Questionnaire. I really appreciate your help.

    Regards
    Ev
     
  10. kemson

    kemson New Member

    Having recently returned from Durban, South Africai I found the attached POW parcel Post receipt issued by the SA Red Cross amongst my late mothers things.
    I recall my mother telling me as a child that her brother, Harold Bert Stride had been a POW. He was born in Southampton c1913 but would have joined up in Durban, South Africa as they emmigrated in 1925.
    Can anyone assist in trying to find any details of where and when he may have been captured and imprisoned.
    This must have been quiet a trying timefor my grand mother as she had previously lost 5 brothers, one on the Titanic and four during WW1.

    Thanks
     

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  11. NickFenton

    NickFenton Well-Known Member

    Kemson,

    I will add your Uncle to my list but could l suggest that you start a thread on your Uncle and l am sure people will be along to help. There is obviously quite a story here.

    Regards,

    Nick
     
  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Kemson

    For info, assume this is your man:
    H B Stride in the UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945

    Name: H B Stride
    Rank: Spr.
    Army Number: 5835
    POW Number: 223715
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: 4B
    Camp Location: Muhlberg (Elbe), Germany
    Section: South African Land Forces : Officers and Other Ranks

    TD

    edited to add:
    There is another Stride from South Africa who was a POW:

    Name: H Stride
    Rank: Cpl.
    Army Number: 17351
    POW Number: 223355
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: 357
    Camp Location: Kopernikus, Poland
    Section: South African Land Forces : Officers and Other Ranks
     
  13. kemson

    kemson New Member

    View attachment 212073 View attachment 212073 View attachment 212073 Hi Tricky Dicky, thanks for the info, the first one was correct.
    According to my mom, he was a very happy go lucky person when he left, but when he returned he was a different person and became quite introverted.
    While going through my mom's belongings after she passed, I found this POW parcel post receipt in amongst her things which I assume was for him.
    Once again thanks.
    Brian Mason
     

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