(South) Hallsville Primary School Civilian War Memorials 10th September 1940

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  2. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Didn't a version of this feature as a plot line in Foyle's War, when a bureaucrat forgot about the schoolkids awaiting evacuation? The Funk Hole?
    CWGC have 77 deaths for Hallsville with another on 6 October of Ada Nicholls, 69, dying of her injuries at Whipps Cross Hospital
     
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  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    10th September 1940
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  5. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    10th September 1940


    A list of casualties (possibly not complete)
    001 ALLEN S - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    002 ALLEN A - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    003 ALLEN CW - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    004 BARBER EI - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    005 BARBER VK - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    006 BILLING P - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    007 CHANDLER H - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    008 CHANDLER JA - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    009 CHANDLER EM - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    010 CHANDLER EM - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    011 CROFT MA - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    012 DRIVER M - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    013 DUNSDON JH - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    014 EVANS LA - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    015 EVANS W - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    016 EVANS A - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    017 GLITZ A - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    018 GLITZ H - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    019 GLITZ H - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    020 GLITZ JM - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    021 GLITZ M - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    022 GLITZ EV - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    023 GLOVER J - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    024 GLOVER G - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    025 GLOVER JJW - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    026 GLOVER M - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    027 GLOVER AR - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    028 GLOVER AR - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    029 GUNN AE - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    030 GUNN J - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    031 GUNN M - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    032 GUNN S - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    033 GUNN A - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    034 GUNN JE - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    035 GUNN A - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    036 GUNN JE - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    037 HOMER B - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    038 JEWELL RM - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    039 JEWELL HJ - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    040 JEWELL H - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    041 JEWELL RL - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    042 JORDAN T - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    043 LEE RM - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    044 LEE S - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    045 LEE E - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    046 LEE G - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    047 LEE P - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    048 LEE IE - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    049 MEADOWS T - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    050 MURPHY ER - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    051 MURPHY TM - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    052 NEWELL E - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    053 NEWMAN-DEATH EH - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    054 NEWMAN-DEATH D - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    055 NEWMAN-DEATH E - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    056 NEWMAN-DEATH E - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    057 NEWMAN-DEATH AL - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    058 NEWMAN-DEATH G - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    059 PRENTICE C - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    060 PUDNEY LM - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    061 PUDNEY T - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    062 PUDNEY A - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    063 PUDNEY C - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    064 QUIRKE C - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    065 QUIRKE E - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    066 QUIRKE A - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    067 QUIRKE E - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    068 QUIRKE T - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    069 RILEY AEW - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    070 SMITH M - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    071 SMITH RM - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    072 SMITH E - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    073 STAFFORD O - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    074 STANNARD I - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    075 STANNARD L - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    076 TAYLOR RJ - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
    077 WITHERS L - - 10/09/1940 CIVILIAN WAR DEAD
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  6. 17 ,18,19,20,21,21,59 and 73 are members of my family x
     
  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Memorial in East London Cemetery Plaistow.

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  8. There are two names on that list and two names on the memorial of Marigold Smith and RM Smith. They actually survived the school so there are two little girls in that mass grave who have been wrongly identified.
     
  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Hello Jenny
    I visited East London cemetery on 19th February 2024.
    Re your concerns have you ever raised them.
    I know from the incident it was very chaotic and a terrible tragedy.
    Do you have access to any paperwork that proves the casualties survived.Or anything else of note or interest.
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2024
  10. Hi I know her family. Please if you are on Facebook please join the South Hallsville school group we are trying our best to get to the bottom of this. My grandfather suffered enormously because of this school incident. No one can be held responsible for the bomb other than Hitler however for our very own authorities to order rescue to stop after just 1 week and then to fill it in with hundreds of ppl still there and in 1948 build a playground above them is absolutely criminal. It should have been cordoned off until the end and then those remaining be buried with some sort of dignity.
    My friend interviewed Marigold couple years ago if your interested in the Facebook group there is a recording of the interview. X
     
  11. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Hello Jenny
    I am not on facebook.

    However I am interested in the alleged number quoted. Do you have any other names of suspected casualties other than the names on CWGC. If you do then they can be investigated.
     
  12. Let me see if I can post the link to the recording x
     
  13. Patricia Billing approx 3 or 4 years also died in the school but isn’t named on the memorial?
     
  14. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    She is remembered on CWGC

    Although she us not in the memorial
    You could contact the local authority and request her name is added.
    CIVILIAN PATRICIA BILLING
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Civilian War Dead

    Date of Death
    Died 10 September 1940
    • Country of Service United Kingdom
    • Additional Info Aged about 4-5 years; of 1 Martindale Road, Custom House. Died at South Hallsville School, Agate Street

    Buried or commemorated at
    WEST HAM, COUNTY BOROUGH

    Civilian War Dead
    https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/3105411/patricia-billing/
     
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  15. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    I do have this book.

    My query is are there any names that you have who were killed and do not appear on CWGC.
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  16. Emma Jane Taylor born 30 Jan 1881
    Died 10 sept 1940 south hallsville school x
     
  17. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Was that her birth name?
    Do you have her birth place and address in 1940
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2024
  18. Yes Emma Jane Taylor
    Born 30 Jan 1881 and died 10 September 1940 at South Hallsville School x
     
  19. I have no clue. I am coming across this info whilst searching the net. I keep trying several combinations of search words .
     
  20. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Do you her mothers maiden name.
    Also do you know where she was born.
     

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