Stalag XXB - POW G.W.Sibthorpe - Any info appreciated.

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by Billsgrand-daughter, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. Will do Idler. :)

    I'm so going to have to write all your advice down before I go.

    Jo
     
  2. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Worse - you're going to have to write everything down when you get back to tell us the story!

    They do have wireless (if you have a laptop) and wired internet at the NA so you can always refer back to us.

    More advice: have a search on here for threads about visiting Kew / National Archives / TNA / PRO for tips. The main one is if you haven't got a digital camera, beg borrow or steal one.
     
  3. Hahaha that's ok I can live with that after all the help you have given me.

    Excellent I'll take both with me and check out those threads too. :)
     
  4. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    What you find in the Service Record and Liberation Report will tell you much more than the I.R.C. know. I say that from the experience of an enquiry I made.
    Hopefully he will have made a Liberation Report which should be quite enlightening from what you already know.

    Brian
     
  5. I do hope so, I must say I'm really intrigued and hope to learn more.

    :)
     
  6. Jo just had a look at some of those
    service numbers of members of the
    1/6th Queens who were KIA

    6090106
    6096891
    6099216
    6091547**
    6090073
    6093531
    6091226
    6091227
    6094073
    6096785
    6091636
    6090622
    6090226
    6098568
    6092050
    6090157
    6091485**
    6091508**
    6099233
    6093236
    6099236
    6095150
    6098811
    6094379
    6098820
    6093136
    6090044
    6093560
    6092658
    6094435
    6098828
    6093794
    6099662
    6098832
    6090601

    These service numbers are just a few from the list
    and the ones I have ** against are not that far from
    your grandfathers .

    Kieron very kindly sent this to me as I noticed on his website that his grandfathers service no was very close to my own.

    My question is Is this a strong indication that my Grandfather was part of 1/6 Queens??? Or am I jumping to conclusions???
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Conclusions :lol:

    Regiments were given blocks of numbers during WW2 (There is a thread on here with them listed) but you have to remember there were quite a few Battalions in some regiments.

    I'd wait for the Service Records ;)
     
  8. Just as I was getting excited hahaha :)

    Least I'm getting closer though, out of interest how long approx does it take for service records to be processed??
     
  9. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    Jo, the service numbers would tell you the people that joined up at the same time, and likely completed basic training with. After this they would have been posted to Battalions / Regiments

    Phil
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I believe it varies I applied for three lots in the middle of December after they lost the first applications and I'm still waiting.
     
  11. Thx Phil.

    Oh dear doesn't sound too promising Drew. :-( Hope they arrive soon :0)
     
  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Thx Phil.

    Oh dear doesn't sound too promising Drew. :-( Hope they arrive soon :0)


    They are just busy and under manned like all government depts. As long as they arrive before Sept I'll be happy ;)
     
  13. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Geoff's Search Engine has 40 casualties with 6091XXX numbers from 39-45 (unless I searched badly) - attached

    There's no real indication that the regimental block was subdivided into battalion blocks; numbers were presumably allocated across the regiment.

    When the TNA catalogue stops messing about, I will extract the references for the Quees's battalions' war diaries. Once you find out which battalion he was in, you will want to consult the relevant diary to find out some more detail. It's very unlikely that he will be mentioned by name but you could get additional information on what was happening when he was captured.
     

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  14. Thank you that would be fantastic. :0)
     
  15. Sad to say my grandfather never filled in a liberation report - now have the long wait for his service records to arrive :-(

    Can't find any documentation with his batallion on either - SO frustrating GGrrrrrrr!!
     
  16. Hi All,

    I've come to pick those vast brains of yours if you don't mind?

    I have found my Gf's Soldiers service & paybook. Sadly it does not state his battallion but it does hold some other ref's and I wondered if they would help in the search.

    So here goes:

    On the top l/hand corner handwriting is QRR/3462 (I assume the QRR is Queens Royal but do the numbers have any relevance?)

    The ref stamped in the book is L.27 AB636300.

    It tells us he was discharged on 7/4/1946

    It also has Service with colours (What does this mean?) 6yrs 224days
    Service Class W (T) reserve Nil
    Total Service 6yrs 305days

    Curious to know how his total service is more that service with colours??

    Here's hoping that someone out there understands this as I am completely lost.

    Thanks in advance

    Jo
     
  17. Hi All,

    I have finally had a respnse back from the ICRC a year later:)

    I now know that my GF was in the 6th bat and he was captured somewhere in Belgium in may 1940.

    With this info will I stand more chance of finding out exactly where he was captured?

    I also know that he was in both Starlag XXA and XXB.

    Any advice or info would be gratefully recieved.

    Jo
     
  18. If someone has a capture date in May 1940 in Belgium, where are they likely to have been actually been captured?

    Would be grateful of any info.
     
  19. 4/7 RDG

    4/7 RDG Member

    I just started reading "Tigers at Dunkirk" by Matthew Richardson, which really gives an idea of the chaos and constant movement backwards through Belgium during May 1940. He traces the route of 2nd/5th Leicestershire Regt, who (although not in contact with the enemy), would be ordered to move back and dig in on a defensive line, only to be ordered to move again the following day. This pattern went on for many days; move, dig, move again.

    For units who were in contact with the Germans it was very similar and soldiers were being told "For you, Tommy, the war is over" all the way from the Escaut almost to the Dunkirk beaches.
     
  20. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hi,

    With so little information - Just about anywhere.

    If you have a date of capture and a unit I would be able to narrow if down quite considerably for you.

    Cheers
    Andy
     

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