Im all for the Zimbabwe one..too long that one...Why aint we gone into Zimbabwe. No dont answer I think I already know the answer...No jungle boots. I have a pair I can loan you urqh, 10 1/2 wide. I'll cash in my frequent flyer points and meet you in Tangiers. Or if they're too big I can loan you mine - size 4!
Guys thanks for the in put but 'please' keep it within context I dont think 'Zimbabwe' have any troops in Afghanistan at the moment ? ..thank you !
We ought to go into Zimbabwe & kick Mugabe's arse out. sorry Za, I didn't see you'd already posted that photo as a link. Bit off topic but boots were on the ground a few years ago and came home. Ref Afghanistan do a search and click on a credible source.
From what I can read most of the comments here concern the troops defeating the Taliban. I think that the coalition can win if the politicians would start being serious about the war, and stop playing politics. The only war most of them are really interested in is the next election at home, and how any move they make will decrease their chances of staying in power. When I look at our world leaders I can’t see a decent leader in the whole bunch.
From what I can read most of the comments here concern the troops defeating the Taliban. I think that the coalition can win if the politicians would start being serious about the war, and stop playing politics. The only war most of them are really interested in is the next election at home, and how any move they make will decrease their chances of staying in power. When I look at our world leaders I can’t see a decent leader in the whole bunch. True enough Rav, one of the disadvantages of our system is its' shortsightedness. Honestly, I wish the politicians would have stayed out completely and let the military win the war. We are not prepared to do what is needed, and we will lose because of the damn politicians.
Bit off topic but boots were on the ground a few years ago and came home. Ref Afghanistan do a search and click on a credible source. Last off topic one...hey....Im just following the forums guru and his mate the top poster...but understood old bean...Drew the monitoring team? Raf p and ss sent and supported from Rudloe Manor..Tales of jungle clearances and 1 raf guy 2 green jobs suddenly face to face with hundreds of gun toting machette toting evil looking and evil thinking folk...errr..If you would just form an orderly queue...
when we win in AFGHANISTAN ..now theres a joke if there ever was one ..when we and others pull out , a few years down the line , and no doubt a great deal after more british personel have died ..the country and its people will return to their way of life that as existed for hundreds of years ..yes we will have killed many taliban fighters but there will be still plenty left .but AL-QEADA as moved on mainly now in the middle east where they can plan there moves against us . if you think the price our troops have paid and have still to pay for our involment in this unwinnable war,,then good for you .......but not me ..
True enough Rav, one of the disadvantages of our system is its' shortsightedness. Honestly, I wish the politicians would have stayed out completely and let the military win the war. We are not prepared to do what is needed, and we will lose because of the damn politicians. Blimey mate the Russians were more than PREPARED TO DO WHAT WAS NEEDE as you say..Hinds slaughtered in droves..tanks reversed over prisoners..villages razed without mercy..the mjdn or Taliban forefathers..didnt flinch..they kept coming..Just what can our military do if let off the leash Ivan couldnt murder rape and pillage into defeat.. Takes some nuts today to take 6 guys and attack on foot major nato airbases..Defeat is not an option for us? failure certainly is.
Za, At those casualty rates all Coalition troops would have been home 5 years ago. The tolerance doesn't exist today for that kind of bloodshed. At least not in Afghanistan. Not having commented on the casualty figures personally..it was interesting today and Im not certain of the accuracy but today on BBC statement that the number of casualties...as and in context with number of servicemen ..rifles bn for example..as a percentage of boots on the ground rather than numbers of casualties etc are equatable to ww1. I suppose if there are fewer of you the numbers even out as a percentage
This may seem like a dumb question, but can anyone actually remember when talk of "going in" to Afganistan was first mooted... What was the actual reason(s) given? I only ask because I genuinely do not know why we went in. I know what they have claimed since, but just like "he has WMD's" was the "reason" for going in to Iraq, what was the actual reason given for this war?
No it didnt, but isnt Bin Laden a Saudi? And as I have said before, the ideology of the terorist is portable. 9/11 may be the real reason we "had to do something" just as regime change was the real reason for the 2nd Iraq war, but what did the poleticians actually claim the reason to be? I cannot remember ever hearing a reason given. One minute we are in Iraq, the next we seem to be in Afganistan as well...
No it didnt, but isnt Bin Laden a Saudi? Just some funny things about the guy (about we don't even know for sure wether he is still alive): As a Saudi xy-rank arabic prince, he received good education, in SA, and in the US Aged 15, in NY (notice the pink caddilac!!), one of these is him, not that JIHAD-ish is he? (the girls on the picture are supposedly westerners, the boys are from his family) Then he worked for the US, excuse, the CIA Just some samples on the guy, who is claimed by many to be a flawless muslim jihadist...
No it didnt, but isnt Bin Laden a Saudi? He was a Saudi until he got too hot for the SA government who made him a personna non grata. So off he went somewhere else where he could pursue his dream without fear of interference from authority.
it may be my age but in the back of my mind i recall a pipeline project across Afganistan from Iraq to Turkey, & more recently bringing Turkey into the EU. let's see that would be oil from a European port. no it wouldn't be that would it!
Certainly not old boy...Any pictures of Taliban leadership being entertained in USA pre twin towers is purely co incidental..but of course even female rights and kids in schools didnt matter then.
