The Guards and Caterham

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  1. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    "For more than a century, the Guards’ Depot at Caterham-on-the-Hill in Surrey played a significant part in this country’s military history and, consequently, in the safeguarding of Britain’s freedoms and interests. When it was built, the Boer War was still a couple of decades in the future, the two World Wars were nightmares yet to come, few in these islands had even heard of Korea, and the Irish Troubles, world terrorism, the Falklands War and Desert Storm were over an almost infinite number of future horizons…”

    Interesting book, little snippets of information and accounts of what it was like at the Depot. Photos, sketches, plans and Guards' humour ...

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  2. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Thanks for posting that. It brings back memories. I used to swim in the pool there with the local Scouts.

    I remember standing next to the Irish Guard's wolfhound. Was he called Connor ? He was a big as me !

    Caterham-on-the-Hill changed forever when it closed. To be honest, it had already changed for the worse when the Cheshire Regt. replaced the Coldstreams (I think). They were a bunch of yobs who seemed to do nothing but look for fights with the locals.
     
  3. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Rich,
    Glad that you had good memories.

    Here's a link to the list of mascot names, as I don't know when:
    IG Mascots

    Regards,
    Diane
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  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Thanks for that Diane.
    My Great-Uncle was there in 1917.
    I also knew a couple of chaps that were there in 1915 & 1918.
    I'll have to dig out somestories they told me about Caterham.
     
  5. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Owen,
    My Grandfather was there in 1913, and my father in 1943.
    Would love to read the stories.
    Diane
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Haven't had chance to find the WW1 stories yet but I have to post this story that I find really funny.
    It's an extract from An Active Service by Richard Dorney.
    An excellent on life in the Guards & SAS from 1935 to 1958 .
    >> Book
    This episode happened when the Grenadiers were forming their 6th Bn at Caterham.
    It shows the rivalry between The Grenadiers and The Coldstream.

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  7. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Both my youngest daughter and my wife work up at the barracks now...

    They work in a day nursery at the old NAFFI

    The church is now a skate park for the local kids

    Brigade place is the old barracks for the officers and are now 3-4 bedroom luxury flats in the region of £400,000

    I can take some pictures if you wish as some of the placks on the buildings have been kept

    Lee
     
  8. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Lee,
    Any photos of the general area and esp. those plaques would be brilliant. Don't put yourself out, I can wait, but really would appreciate it if you could manage that.

    Thanks for the offer,
    Diane
     
  9. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Heres a few pics I took with my Nokia phone hope they help The only plack I could find at the moment was the Sergent's mess and the sun was reflecting on it so it did not come out to clear
     

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  10. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi
    Thanks so much for these. Will show them to my father to see if it brings back a memory or too.:D

    Appreciate you doing this,
    Diane
     
  11. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Heres a few more some in black and white which he would be more familiar with...
     

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  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Excellent photos Lee, thanks.
    They've converted the old Le Marchant Barracks in Devizes in a similar way.

    Here's Charles Steer's CWGC entry.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details
     
  13. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD


    Thanks again Lee,
    Did you take all of these yourself?

    D
     
  14. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    I took quite a few today thats the first batch.......If anyone has a request about a particular building I can take some more not a problem as work is quiet at the moment so I pick my wife & daughter up from the Naffi everyday...
     
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Lee
    Regards that extract I posted, is the Coldstream block still there?
    I believe the bullet holes are still in visable.
     
  16. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Owen, I will check it out tonight for you..although if they are in -visible how can I see them!!:p

    Lee
     
  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I believe the bullet holes are still in visable

    :redface:

    Oops!
     
  18. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Just had to post this clip here ...

    BOY GUARDSMAN - British Pathe

    Caterham, Surrey.

    M/S of a convoy of cars entering the gates to some army barracks, inside a row of guardsmen in busbies are waiting. M/S of a sign reading '2nd Battalion Grenadier Guards'. M/S of 9 year old Alexander Morris stepping out of the Commanding Officer's car - he won this trip as a prize. Alexander walks over and shakes hands with an officer, in the background stand his parents. C/U of the officer smiling. Various shots of Alexander walking past the row of guardsmen standing to attention. Panning shot along the row of guardsmen. M/S of the Commanding Officer placing a busby on Alexander's head. C/U of Alexander wearing the busby. C/U of a guardsman shouting orders. M/S of Alexander and the row of guardsmen marching past the barracks. Low angle shot of the guardsman shouting. Alexander and the guardsmen do an 'about turn' and march the other way. C/U of two officers chatting. M/S of Alexander sitting on the grass next to an army bugler. The bugler shows Alexander how to blow his bugle. C/U of Alexander blowing his bugle.

    M/S of Alexander wearing headphones talking into a radio to a nearby Grenadier. C/U of the Grenadier insignia on the bonnet of an army vehicle. M/S of Alexander looking out of a hatch of an armoured car as it drives past. M/S of the armoured car driving over a field. M/S of the two officers talking. M/S of a soldier showing Alexander how to load a machine gun.

    Central London.

    M/S of Alexander sitting next to a sergeant in the audience of Horse Guards Parade. L/S of a guardsmen's brass band marching past. C/U of Alexander and the officer. L/S of the marching troops with Alexander and the sergeant in the foreground.


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    1st June 1961: Nine year-old Alexander Morris, on parade with the Grenadier guards at Caterham barracks. Morris is a guest of the guards for three days as a prize for being the best marcher in a youth parade in Bootle, Lancashire.
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  19. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Great clip Di, thanks for posting, really enjoyed that.

    Mike
     
  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Sorry, I promised to post this ages ago.
    Part of the memoirs of a WW1 Veteran, Horace Calvert born 1899, enlisted underaged into the West Yorks TF, so impressed by the Guards he never went back to them & joined the Grenadiers instead , Regimental Number 23553.
    This describes his time at Caterham in 1915.

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