The Military Imposter Walts fakes etc thread

Discussion in 'The Lounge Bar' started by Donnie, Sep 29, 2009.

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  1. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

  2. DPas

    DPas Member

  3. Bernard85

    Bernard85 WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    good day rav4,sm,yesterday.07:17pm.re:remembrance day inposter.if they are so keen to wear the uniform,sign up,and do it right.not that the forces want fonneys like that in there midst.thank you for posting.regards bernard85 :army:
     
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  4. Rav4

    Rav4 Senior Member

  5. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    We had one for the 70th Anniversary commemorations at Arnhem in September. Claimed to have served with the LRDG then the 22nd Independent Company in Normandy winning the MC. He then apparently served with the 21st Independent Company during Market Garden where he won his Bar to the MC. It's disgusting really.
     
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  6. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    It really Looks like he is in the poo.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  7. smdarby

    smdarby Well-Known Member

    These imposters nearly always overdo the medals, and that's a dead giveaway. Quite a few have been found out by the medal collecting fraternity.

    I know there is the Stolen Valour Act in the US, which makes it a crime to fraudulently claim to have been awarded certain medals (including the purple heart), but I must admit I do not know if there is any such law in the UK or Canada.
     
  8. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    If there isn't such a law already, there should be one.
     
  9. smdarby

    smdarby Well-Known Member

    To be honest I'm in two minds whether there should such a law in England. Of course it is morally wrong to fraudulently claim to have served in the military when you haven't, but is it worth spending time and money drafting a law and prosecuting these idiots? I don't think there have been too many convictions under the Stolen Valor Act because it is difficult to enforce and costs money to do so. It's a classic case of a law with good intentions that hasn't been thought through properly. The law has also had an unintentional knock-on effect by penalizing genuine medal collectors who now can't buy purple hearts and gallantry awards.

    Better just to highlight fakers on social media and in the press and socially stigmatize them in my opinion.
     
  10. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    It's a mental condition,a psychological need of the inflicted individal to portray themselves in another dimension.Of course it's a criminal offence to impersonate any "office" held under The Crown be it the armed forces,civil service or any other post within the goverment administrative.

    It's no different to the falsifing of CVs for a path to an enhanced career with power,influence and financial income that may stem from it.It's a criminal offence where an advantage has been gained from such CV embellishment. Cases of embellishers rise from time to time which in addition to the individual being dismissed,the more serious cases lead to prosecution.
     
  11. smdarby

    smdarby Well-Known Member

    But the bloke at Arnhem mentioned above wasn't impersonating a serving soldier, he was impersonating a former soldier. And he was doing it in the Netherlands - which complicates things further! What about re-enactors - should they be prosecuted also? It's a difficult area. Better just to show these people up for what they are on forums like this.
     
  12. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    If whatever is done is not intended to mislead then surely it's basically ok. No need to mix up re enactors with all this provided they keep to exactly that and it's obvious to everyone else. I was in Normandy in June and went to an official commemoration event in Tilly sur Seulles which included re enactors: they were exactly that, did not digress from that, and their input was appreciated by all, including many veterans, present.

    The problem arises when it becomes an intent to misrepresent or deceive others, whether out of some sort of perceived self-importance or maliciousness. Either way, that is the lowest of the low.

    It can also work the other way. I once saw a genuine veteran being sort-of told off for being a somewhat spurious reenactor. He was simply a chap in his 80's who had somehow managed to keep his WW2 uniform and decided to wear it again as a bit of fun and as a personal tribute to his old mates.
     
  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Mind over matter chaps, Mind over matter......I don't mind, because he doesn't matter.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. snailer

    snailer Country Member

    There I was in bicorne hat, hand tucked in my jacket, white breeches and a filthy temper.
    No-one asked me to remove my Grand Eagle of the Légion d’Honneur.
     
  15. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Nelson or Napoleon Bonaparte?
     
  16. Brian Smith

    Brian Smith Junior Member

    To me more than anything it is disrespectful to those who did serve, to those they are trying to impersonate but never can be because they have not lived that life. Brian
     
  17. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    This chap is the latest in a long line of characters to wear medals and paraphernalia and falsely claim a distinguished service record. They are claiming to have done something they have never achieved. If nothing else it is disrespectful to others.

    I know the Parachute Regiment has had more than its fair share of imposters, some examples are given here:

    http://www.parachuteregiment-hsf.org/Walter%20Mitty.htm
     
  18. snailer

    snailer Country Member

    Nelson who? Mandela?
    I’m not allowed to black up anymore, my homage to Stevie Wonder-Woman wasn’t received well.

    I hope this doesn’t turn into an internet trial and persecution thread like the walt hunter threads on other sites. Mildly amusing at first but then you see the lengths these “hunters” go to to out people, seeing it as their civic duty to publicly humiliate them.
    As Harry said, it’s a sickness and It’s pretty obvious some of these fantasists have psychological problems of varying degrees. It’ll all end in tears one day soon I fear.
     
  19. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It's nothing new. My primary school headmaster never tired of telling a packed school assembly or the parent Teacher Association about his time with the RAF, shooting down Zeros over Burma...and my Dad who was a contemporary always insisted that his age and the timings didn't fit. I suspect that I inherited my bullshit detector from Dad but it was always obvious that ninety percent of the audience lapped it up.

    If only the internet had been available in 1967...I could have outed him as a walt and paid him back for belittling me on the sports field.

    What are the requirements for applying for RAF service records ???? :indexCA7C9VES:
     
  20. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    A collective 'flush' is in order for this piece of excrement.
     

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