The Murder of Five Captured RAF Officers. Warning: Graphic Images

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by Drew5233, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    I splitted my posts, otherwise one post would be to large.

    Here are some photos of the airmen alive and of the exhumation.
    Some informations about the airmen can be read on page 2 of this thread.
     

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  6. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    Here is another interesting document.
    The day the airmen were murdered the wing commander of the 214 squadroon wrote to Mrs. Hall that she should not be in worries about her husband cause the whole crew bailed out about liberated territory. Unfortunately John Wynne made some navigation mistakes which led to the to early bailing out of the crew over german territory.

    Now I got to bed.
    Can maybe someone help me with the spoilers above?
     
  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Hi, Pollux.
    Hope you don't mind, but I converted the exhumation shots to thumbnails.
    I absolutely agree that they are legitimate to show as part of the horrible story of war & it's associated realities, but in the thumbnail format those that don't wish to view can still follow these men's stories with something of a veil drawn over the grim pictorial details.

    Amazing thread, mate. Keep up the good work.
    Personally, I think you honour these blokes by telling their story so completely.

    ~A
     
  8. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Good move Adam. I had my doubts about the need to post the exhumation images but viewing the consistent gun-shot wounds to the head makes it even more clear just how cold-blooded the killings were.

    I sincerely hope that no descendants or family of the victims are troubled by anything that they see here and are comforted by the fact that the men are not forgotten. :poppy:
     
  9. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    I thoroughly agree with those sentiments.
     
  10. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    Hi, Pollux.
    Hope you don't mind, but I converted the exhumation shots to thumbnails.


    Absolutely no problem...i tried to spoiler the pixs but somehow didn´t manage it.

    This is the one, SA leader Weiß, who lead the mob.
    He committed suicide in the beginning of may 45.
     
  11. M@Bou

    M@Bou Junior Member

    Hi, Pollux.
    Hope you don't mind, but I converted the exhumation shots to thumbnails.
    I absolutely agree that they are legitimate to show as part of the horrible story of war & it's associated realities, but in the thumbnail format those that don't wish to view can still follow these men's stories with something of a veil drawn over the grim pictorial details.

    Amazing thread, mate. Keep up the good work.
    Personally, I think you honour these blokes by telling their story so completely.

    ~A

    As a family member of one of the crew, I have to say I also agree and think that all materials should be made available, however I do think that using a link is a more appropriate method when it comes to the more distressing types of image.
    Although I was fortunate to not loose my Grandfather I do obviously empathise with the other family members of the crew and I'm sure that any of the others researching their loved one's final moments may not want to see these images, as such I think that should be respected.

    M@
     
  12. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    re:SA leader Weiß

    His son looks old enough to perhaps
    remember some of these events...

    I wonder where he lives today
     
  13. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    re:SA leader Weiß

    His son looks old enough to perhaps
    remember some of these events...

    I wonder where he lives today

    Unfortunately it is said in Dillweißenstein that the place where Weiß committed suicide was at the graves of his son and wife who died in the airraid of 23th february 1945. But the Weiß family is quite large in Dillweißenstein. Next time I´m there I will try to get more information. Cause he died before the investigation started I only have a picture and a death certificate of him.

    That is the certificate...it is written in it that his deathplace was the cemetary.
     
  14. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Doesn't it impy at the bottom that he was still married to Rosine Margarethe and that she was still living in the Hirsauerstrasse ?
     
  15. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    But I have an eyewhitness statement of that night from a man who lived together with Weiß and who told about his behaviour of that night.
    I hope you can read it.
     
  16. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    Doesn't it impy at the bottom that he was still married to Rosine Margarethe and that she was still living in the Hirsauerstrasse ?

    I don´t know exactly. It could be a form of "Beamtendeutsch", but it is written in the past that he was married to Rosine Weiß.
    But maybe you are right cause behind the parents name it is remarked that they are dead. Thanks for your remark.
     
  17. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    Because we have with M@ a relative of Norman Bradley I post the pages of the trial in which Norman Bradley made his statement.

    The statement Norman Bradley made before the trial can be read here on page 7.
     
  18. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    Is it possible to read?
     
  19. RosyRedd

    RosyRedd Senior Member

    Yes. Not a problem reading it.
     
  20. Pollux5

    Pollux5 Senior Member

    These are the 4 deathwarrants of the death row inmates. The executioner was always the famous Albert Pierrepoint.
     

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