Hi, Looking for some help, with a civilian casualty. 21/11/1941 Wellington T2552 109 Sqn crashed near Oakington on a training flight. According to the book (Beam Bombers ?) Six crew died and three passengers. One of the passengers was a member of the Telecommunications Research Establishment a scientist working at Oakington George G.B SAMSON Age 33. Listed as died Cambridge (GRO) I can't find him listed CWGC, as a civilian war death shouldn't he be listed ? Thanks Mark
Mark, No passengers listed for the loss details in BCL Vol.2. The six crew are listed. Do you require more details? Regards Peter
Hi, The three passengers are not mentioned in Chorley BCL2 1941. Two of them were RAF men from 7 Sqn, they are both listed in BCL9 ROH :- 1181737 SGT RONALD GEORGE ARCHER (Died Cambridge 3b Age 26) 570227 SGT ADAM (Alan?) GRANT (Died Cambridge 3b Age 20) Now Sgt GRANT is listed in BCL2 as DOW 21/11/41 injured in the crash of Stirling N6087 on the 18-11-41 Oakington ? Thanks again Mark
Hi Mark As he was killed in a military aircraft crash then a case may be made for CWGC commemoration as civilian war dead; are you prepared to purchase the DC Chris
Hi Chris, Maybe two other civilian war deaths, two Meteorolgists serving with Bomber Command listed in Chorley BCL and ROH Mr Glynn HALFORD 17.1.42 27 OTU Anson N5030 Crash Isle of Man Mr Kenneth T TAGG Age 18 18.7.42 18 Sqn Blenheim Z7304 Crash Norwich Mark
I have the following in my civilian war deaths database: George Gavin Samson, Wireless Operator. New Zealand subject aged 34. Of 53 Manor Court, Friern Barnett. Died in Aeroplane Crash, near Oakington, on 21/11/1941 I sourced this information from the original Cambridgeshire Civil Defence records, some 15 years ago. This info was sent to the IWGC. This is from memory, but I am fairly sure he was married and had a child (in the UK).
CivilianSAMSEN, T R Died 21/11/1941 Civilian War Dead near Oakington. Samson was already listed in CWGC. Details will be amended.
1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION 33 Selborne Road, Southgate M.B., Middlesex NAME DOB OCCUPATION Matthew Palmer 25 Jun 1881 Machine Tool Maker Re Mary E Palmer 24 May 1884 Unpaid Dd Lilian E M Palmer 16 Jun 1906 Unpaid Dd Eric O Willoughby 07 Aug 1907 Radio Engineer Neil D Clotworthy 15 Jul 1917 Radio Engineer - Devel George G B Samson 16 Jan 1907 Radio Engineer - Devel (Parts of the original image are illegible)