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Trent Park House of Secrets

Discussion in 'Top Secret' started by Lindele, Aug 17, 2026.

  1. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    Today my local newspaper informs about this place and what is was during the war.
    And, what two Generals, Ludwig Crüwell and Wilhelm von Thoma talked about in German. And what was secretly monitored by MI5
    E.g. V2 project.
    Stefan.
     
  2. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    The English historian Helen Fry wrote a book about it Stefan - The Walls Have Ears - it’s an interesting read.

    https://www.helen-fry.com/the-walls-have-ears

    She discusses it with Dan Snow on this podcast -

    WW2: Spying on Nazis

    Steve
     
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  3. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96


    Thanks a lot, The German military broadly underestimated the British military in WW2.
    When I researched for my book about the tunnel escape of British officers from a POW camp in 1041, I had a similar experience.
    Stefan.
     
  4. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Stefan,

    An online search with: "Trent Park" site:ww2talk.com id'd approx. x15 threads here. Using: "Trent Park" + "helen fry" site:ww2talk.com id'd x3, one may be a review.
     
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  5. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    Thanks for the information about the book.
    I can purchase the book in our local book shop and will tell you what I thought of it.
    Stefan.
     
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  6. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Stefan

    Below is a very comprehensive thread on Trent Park from many years ago.

    I would add that Soldaten by Sonke Neitel referenced gives a deep insight to war by one side, that conducted by the Wehrmacht.

    Recordings of German Military in Captivity | WW2Talk
     
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  7. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Söhnke Neitzel has written Abgehört which was AFAICT the first work to look into this.

    Trent Park wasn't the only place where German POWs were secretly monitored, this form of intelligence gathering took place in the Middle East and Mediterranean as well.

    These are very useful sources, as they provide evidence of how soldiers thought about the war at the time, rather than through the fog of memory decades later.

    The Rommel Myth

    Welche Zeitung war das heute Lindele ?

    All the best

    Andreas
     
  8. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    Hi Andreas,

    it was in the Schwaebische Zeitung , Ravensburg

    Cheers, Stefan.
     
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  9. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    The book shop received the book today and I started to read it: After page 2, this book is very promising. However
    Helen Frey is a historian and, to my knowledge never had any military training. Helen's comment, that a German low rank officer and a paratrooper were unbelievably stupid, sounds a bit overdone. They were two young lads, knowing little to nothing about the capabilities of MI6.

    However, as I stated before, The Brits, like Major Kendrick, understood German and had much more knowledge about The Reich, than German Military ever gained during WW2.
    Stefan.
     
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  10. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    Lots of technical details, great reading and many facts I had not known before. Also,well known names of German officers and men.
    Amusing how charming the instigators went about with wining and dining.
    I have already recommended the book to Germans and Brits.
    Stefan.
     
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  11. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    And now to a friend in France in French.

    Has their ever been ideas for a project to produce a film of that great story ?
    I volunteer to be one of the German speakers, no matter General or else.
    Stefan.
     
  12. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    British TV Channel 4 produced a programme about Trent House back in 2013 with actors speaking the words of the German Generals as recorded in the transcripts made at the time.

    Spying on Hitler's Army: The Secret Recordings | Channel 4
     

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