Trooper 321908 Edward Benjamin Wiseman

Discussion in 'Unit Documents' started by Mark Watson, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Right, just checked CWGC and he's listed with 1st East Riding Yeomanry at the time of his death on CWGC - Completely different unit.

    Casualty Details
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Regiment at Enlistment: 15th/19th King's Royal Hussars RAC
    Branch at Enlistment: Royal Armoured Corps
    Theatre of War: France and Belgium Campaign, 1939/40
    Regiment at Death: East Riding of Yorkshire Yeomanry RAC

    TD

    edited to add:
    Its why we need his service records
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    He was in 4 Troop, C Squadron and was in one of two carriers ambushed by Germans near Foret de Nieppe whilst on patrol.
     
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  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Drew

    Is that from WD's or the Regimental history??

    TD
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    War Diaries of 1st East Riding Yeomanry
     
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  6. Mark Watson

    Mark Watson Member

    Hello was withe East Riding RAC SO I DON'T KNOW BUT WOULD HE THEN OF BEEN PLACED WITH 15/19 KINGS HUSSARS BUT I DON'T KNOW ALL HIS PAPERS SHOW EAST RIDING YEO THEN 15/19 KINGS HUSSARS
    HAND ON HEART I DON'T HAVE A CLUE COULD HE OF DONE HIS BASIC TRAINING WITH EAST RIDING?
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I'm still not sure where the Kings Hussars comes into it.

    For me he's East Riding Yeomanry all day or certainly with them at the time of his death. He's recorded on CWGC with them and he's buried in the same cemetery with two other chaps from the same unit and the same date of death. The war diary comes in two parts and the CO's diary mentions two carriers being ambushed on the date of his death with one killed and three missing-To me I'd bet my mortgage these are the same men. His grave location isn't known plus there's a few Known to God graves in there which could belong to the fourth missing man or he survived the war.
     
  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Well-Known Member

    Thats why we need his service records, so that we can see what happened

    Mark,
    Have you applied/are you applying for them??

    TD
     
  9. rupertthebear

    rupertthebear New Member

    Mark
    From a search I found this thread as you were searching for information about Edward Wiseman of the 8th King's Royal Irish Hussars/ Royal Armoured Corps but on the Day of the First East Riding Yeomanry

    I found it as Edward is buried alongside my wife's uncle Thomas Brogden. Like you I wanted to find out more about how and where they died in action. We have visited the graves and it is an unusual site as it is on a grassy strip in the middle of the graveyard of the church in Renescure.

    I am making the strong assumption that Edward and Thomas were friends and compatriots who fought together and died together. Too young. If you do or have found any more information I would be very interested to hear from you. In particular any photographs!
    May their sacrifice not be in vain.

    Regards Rupert
     
  10. Mark Watson

    Mark Watson Member

    Hi Rupert thanks for passing on the information l would think the same as you ,it would be reasonable to think that they were friends ,like you said to young l have just applied for his service records and will be happy to share any information that they bring up please do keep in touch its no problem they gave there everything Lest we Forget
    Regards Mark
     
  11. Mark Watson

    Mark Watson Member

    Hi Tricky Dicky sorry for the late reply l have recently applied for Edwards service records and will let you know as soon as there through l am very grateful to yourself and all the other members who have helped so far much respect to all of you
    Regards Mark
     
  12. Mark Watson

    Mark Watson Member

    Hi Drew really sorry for late reply have sent for Edwards service records would be very grateful if you would have a look and let me know once there here how did it happen that Edward was with the East Riding Yeomanry was it usual for recruits to be shuffled about?lam very grateful for the information and can't thank all of the members enough
    Kind regards Mark
     
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  13. harkness

    harkness Active Member

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