WC Ostler RAOC.

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  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    My turn to ask for help. Here's another of my Upper Stratton War Dead.
    CWGC :: Casualty Details

    Name:OSTLER, WILLIAM CLIFFORD
    Initials:W C
    Nationality:United Kingdom
    Rank:Private
    Regiment/Service:Royal Army Ordnance Corps
    Unit Text:1 Ordnance Field Park
    Age:39
    Date of Death:14/09/1941
    Service No:7588063
    Additional information:Husband of Lilian May Ostler, of Upper Stratton, Swindon, Wiltshire.
    Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference:K. 131.
    Cemetery:CAIRO WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

    Anyone know about 1 Ordnance Field Park, what exactly did they do?
    Who were they attatched to, Divison ,Corps,Army level?
    Basically anything will do to add info.
    Thanks.


    Any advice gratefully received.
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Finally have a photo of his Grave.
    Was sent it by this chap.
    Ralph McLean
    Project Director
    South Africa War Graves Project
    http://www.southafricawargraves.org/
    Box 35
    The Pas, Manitoba
    R9A 1K3
    Canada
    Tel: 204-623-1518
     

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  3. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    My turn to ask for help. Here's another of my Upper Stratton War Dead.

    Anyone know about 1 Ordnance Field Park, what exactly did they do?
    Who were they attatched to, Divison ,Corps,Army level?
    Basically anything will do to add info.
    Thanks.

    Couple of things here. The first was Juno Beach Centre listing and the second to do with Field Park NZ North Africa and a few others. Hope it helps.

    2nd Infantry Division Back to QuickLinks
    8th Reconnaissance Regiment (14th Canadian Hussars)

    4th Infantry Brigade
    The Royal Regiment of Canada
    The Royal Hamilton Light Infantry
    The Essex Scottish Regiment
    4th Infantry Brigade Company, R.C.A.S.C.
    4th Infantry Brigade Workshop, R.C.E.M.E.

    5th Infantry Brigade
    The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada
    Le Régiment de Maisonneuve
    The Calgary Highlanders
    5th Infantry Brigade Company, R.C.A.S.C.
    5th Infantry Brigade Workshop, R.C.E.M.E.

    6th Infantry Brigade
    Les Fusiliers Mont-Royal
    The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada
    The South Saskatchewan Regiment
    6th Infantry Brigade Company, R.C.A.S.C.
    6th Infantry Brigade Workshop, R.C.E.M.E.

    The Toronto Scottish Regiment (Machine Gun) 4th Field Regiment, R.C.A.
    5th Field Regiment, R.C.A.
    6th Field Regiment, R.C.A.
    2nd Anti-Tank Regiment, R.C.A.
    3rd Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, R.C.A.
    1st Field Park Company, R.C.E.
    2nd Field Company, R.C.E.
    7th Field Company, R.C.E.
    11th Field Company, R.C.E.
    2nd Infantry Divisional Signals, R.C.C.S.
    2nd Infantry Divisional Troops Company, R.C.A.S.C.
    No. 10 Field Ambulance, R.C.A.M.C.
    No. 11 Field Ambulance, R.C.A.M.C.
    No. 18 Field Ambulance, R.C.A.M.C.
    No. 2 Infantry Divisional Ordnance Field Park, R.C.O.C.
    No. 2 Infantry Troops Workshop, R.C.E.M.E.


    6th Australian Infantry Division - Raised 28 September 1939
    2/1st Field Regiment, RAA (New South Wales)
    2/2nd Field Regiment, RAA (Victoria)
    2/3rd Field Regiment, RAA (South Australia, Western Australia, Darwin and NSW)
    2/5th Field Regiment, RAA (Queensland and Tasmania) - Converted to 2/1st Anti-Tank Regiment in 2/40
    2/1st Australian Machine-Gun Regiment
    2/1st Australian Pioneer Battalion
    6th Australian Divisional Cavalry
    2/1st Field Company, RAE - Sydney, New South Wales
    2/2nd Field Company, RAE - Melbourne, Victoria
    2/3rd Field Company, RAE - Tasmania/Western Australia/South Australia
    2/1st Field Park Company, RAE - Queensland


    ‘Dear Freyberg,
    The 5th Field Park Coy, New Zealand Engineers is leaving Barce tomorrow to rejoin you at Helwan. I want to let you know what good work the unit has done. We had no Corps Troops Field Park Company of our own, and your unit filled the bill most admirably.
    ‘At the start of the campaign, 5th Field Park Coy was at Maaten Bagush operating the water supply. For the attack on Nebeiwa etc, I needed water points further forward, along the Matruh-Siwa road. There was little enough time for the work, and the fact that two hundred tons of water a day was available at these points was due largely to the efforts of 5th Field Park Coy.

    <table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td colspan="2" nowrap="nowrap">[​IMG]FIELD PARK COMPANIES</td><td></td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
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    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 2/25 FIELD PARK COMPANY</td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
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    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 2/6 FIELD PARK COMPANY</td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
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    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 51 FIELD PARK COMPANY</td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
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    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 53 FIELD PARK COMPANY</td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 54 FIELD PARK COMPANY</td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 55 FIELD PARK COMPANY</td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 58 CORPS FIELD PARK COMPANY</td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 59 CORPS FIELD PARK COMPANY</td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">
    </td><td nowrap="nowrap">NT 60 CORPS FIELD PARK COMPANY </td><td>[​IMG]</td></tr></tbody></table>
     
  4. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Cheers Geoff, but a Field Park Company in the RE is diferent to an Ordnance Field Park.

    In that list you posted this is nearer the mark than an RE unit.
    No. 2 Infantry Divisional Ordnance Field Park, R.C.O.C.
     
  6. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Cheers Geoff, but a Field Park Company in the RE is diferent to an Ordnance Field Park.

    In that list you posted this is nearer the mark than an RE unit.
    No. 2 Infantry Divisional Ordnance Field Park, R.C.O.C.

    I did highlight it as that was the search criteria I used. Do we yet know what they actually do?

    On my way to basketball so you may find it out by the time I get back.
     
  7. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    What does '1 Ord Fld Pk' stand for. Been having a hopeless look for you Owen, but without even knowing what it means, I'm not having much luck.
     
  8. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    OMG I've done it again. The answer's in the thread title. I'm always doing this. Right, ok I'll look again.
     
  9. willywills

    willywills Junior Member

    What does '1 Ord Fld Pk' stand for. Been having a hopeless look for you Owen, but without even knowing what it means, I'm not having much luck.
    Ordanance Field Park,i served 12OFP Osnabruch in 1975,we were Royal Army Ordanance Corp.Each Division had a OFP,we carried stores from a nut to a Cheftain gun barrel.WW2 the Ordanance had thier stores parks and the RASC then transported up the line,there is a RAOC SITE,RAOCONLINE were there are a couple of people with a far greater knowledge of our Corp.
     
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  10. Pete Keane

    Pete Keane Senior Member

    The Field Parks worked at Corps, Brigade etc level, as the previous answer says, they were responsible for the whole spectrum of maintaining, repairing, replacing equipment.

    They would have worn the patch of the brigade they were attached to.

    I'm not an expert on the war in the desert, but take a look at what was happening at that time - he is buried in the cairo cemetery, but this may have been as a result of being injured in action and then moved to the hospital at cairo.

    If he was in an advanced ofp he would have been very close to the frontline.

    Regards

    Pete.
     
  11. willywills

    willywills Junior Member

    The Field Parks worked at Corps, Brigade etc level, as the previous answer says, they were responsible for the whole spectrum of maintaining, repairing, replacing equipment.

    They would have worn the patch of the brigade they were attached to.

    I'm not an expert on the war in the desert, but take a look at what was happening at that time - he is buried in the cairo cemetery, but this may have been as a result of being injured in action and then moved to the hospital at cairo.

    If he was in an advanced ofp he would have been very close to the frontline.

    Regards

    Pete.
    Poss be behind it Pete,when i was serveing we ended up 6 miles behind enemy lines.:huh:lack of comms,i think.Can tell you that 1OFP was still going in 1979.
     
  12. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It's worth bearing in mind as well that this chap died prior to the formation of REME so Ordnance were still responsible for recovery and repair of frontline vehicles (not the limited number of second line stuff allocated to RASC ).
     
  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Thanks for adding to this old thread.
    Cheers Chaps.
     
  14. willywills

    willywills Junior Member

    An advanced base was set up at El Dada,with 30 days stock,held at Mersa Matruh near the railhead.But the daily pack train failed to keep up with demand.So a special road convoy was set up,to operate from the railhead,operated by 1OFP and1st CavDiv OFP{reserve unit]all urgent ie fighting stores to Armrd Ord Coy,was supplied throughout the advance.So Owen you man would/could have been close to the front.
     
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Got this from RosyRedd.
    Thanks, similar info to willywills.

    I have this which is from the chapter 'The Middle East 1940 - 1941'

    ORBAT - RAOC Greece

    1 NZ DIV
    2 Indep Bde W/Shop
    5 Indep Bde W/Shop
    1 Ord Fd Pk

    It was then evacuated to Egypt.


    Quote:
    System of Supply and Lessons

    An Advanced Ordnance Depot was located at El Daba and held 14 days maintenance of MT spares for the Western Desert Force, reserves of clothing and stocks of camp equipment and signal stores. Originally this depot held no more than 7,000 items, but during the operation the stocks of MT parts alone grew to 25,000 different items. No portion of these base stocks was held in advance of El Daba except that a 30-day reserve of Ordnance stores was held near the railhead at Mersa Matruh for the garrison of that place.

    The rail capacity for the long distance from Cairo to Mersa Matruh was inadequate. The difficulties were aggravated by the shortage of rolling stock, particularly flats, and by the poor rail facilities at 4 Base Ordnance Depot at Abbassia which during the whole of the operation functioned as the main depot for the supply of MT and warlike stores.

    A daily pack train failed to meet requirements and it was necessary to introduce a road convoy service provided by reserve vehicles specially allotted for the purpose and by replacement vehicles going forward. The convoy service was operated by 1 Ordnance Field Park and 1st Cavalry Division Ordnance Field Park, which was a reserve unit.

    The system started as a means to supplemnt supply by rail from Cairo to Mersa Matruh, but was later extended to deliver vehicles and urgent fighting stores to the Armoured Divisional Ordnance Field Park throughout the advance.

    The shortage of stores and equipment resulted in much additional work to meet urgent issues, notably the search required at the docks to locate items in recently off-loaded cargo and arrange special despatch to the forward area of the base as appropriate...
     
  16. RosyRedd

    RosyRedd Senior Member

    Hi Owen,

    Attached are the scanned pages with the information about 1 OFP and the ORBAT Greece as promised. The third is a scan from a page in the next chapter. It doesn't tell you much more, except that 510 Vehicle and Stores Convoy Unit replaced 1 OFP.

    Jules.
     

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