What have you learned about WW2 recently?

Discussion in 'General' started by dbf, Oct 22, 2010.

  1. canuck

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    I had no idea.

    Thunder Bay's Canadian Car and Foundry produced Hurricanes, Helldivers and the North American Harvard Mk IV .

    Image - Curtiss SB2C Helldiver aircraft near completion at Canadian Car and Foundry in Fort William, Ontario (Now Thunder Bay). Prior to the American entry into the Second World War, the Curtiss Aircraft Co. increased production of SB2C Helldiver naval aircraft by licensing construction to two Canadian companies - Fairchild Aircraft and Canadian Car and Foundry. Though the first flight of the prototype did not happen until December of 1940, large-scale production had already been ordered on 29 November 1940. A large number of modifications were specified for the production model and the program suffered so many delays that the Grumman TBF Avenger entered service before the Helldiver, even though the Avenger had begun its development two years later. Nevertheless, production tempo accelerated with production at Columbus, Ohio and two Canadian factories: Fairchild Aircraft Ltd. (Canada) which produced a total of 300 (under the designations XSBF-l, SBF-l, SBF-3 and SBF-4E) and Canadian Car and Foundry which built 894 (designated SBW-l, SBW-3, SBW-4, SBW-4E and SBW-5), these models being respectively equivalent to their Curtiss-built counterparts. A total of 7,140 SB2Cs were produced in World War II.( SourcE: Archives of Ontario)
     
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  2. Dave55

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    That's a versatile factory.
     
  3. Seroster

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    The Wikipedia article for Canadian Car and Foundry mentions unspecified tanks. I wonder if that was in addition to the planes or if it is an error.
     
  4. canuck

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    They built ships (minesweepers) at the same plant in WW1.
     
  5. canuck

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    To my knowledge they did not manufacture tanks. That reference may have been to railroad tank cars, which they did manufacture, pre-war.
     
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  6. Dave55

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    Wiki says that the Ram was built in the Montreal Loco Works
     
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  7. Seroster

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    And I believe the Valentines were also manufactured in Montreal. So it was probably just an error.

    Apparently the factory in Thunder Bay had sat disused for a while and only became operational again a few years before WW2, according to the blurb for a book about it.

    Canadian Car & Foundry Aircraft at Fort William – Thunder Bay Museum

    There are a few other digitized pictures of the airplanes under construction in the LAC archives.
     
  8. Seroster

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    I did not know until recently that Canadian WW1 fighter ace Raymond Collishaw had the rank of Air Commodore and commanded "Egypt Group" for Operation Compass and afterward and that he and O'Connor worked closely together. And that he had his one operational Hurricane ("Colly's Battleship") moved to and fro so as to give the impression that he had more Hurricanes!
     
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