What's on the TV today?

Discussion in 'Books, Films, TV, Radio' started by Drew5233, Nov 1, 2008.

  1. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Now on Channel 5...Conspiracy: The Cold War Files

    Gehlen's character being assessed.....one who switched his allegiance from Hitler at the end of the war and worked for the Allies,one of a number who would have been tried as war criminals....apparently complicit in the deaths of 3 million Russian POWs.

    Looks like Six was one of his team,the man who intended that on the defeat of the British,all males between the ages 16-45 would be deported to the continent for forced labour

    Russian sub K 129...conspiracy regarding the loss of this sub.I knew already that Howard Hughes was contracted to covert recover the sub .
     
  2. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    On last night's TV, ITV at 8pm but will soon be available on "Catch-up"

    "100 year old drivers ride again"

    I winced as I saw some of these old (very old) drivers narrowly escaping death on the roads but gave them lots of marks for their determination to be independent.

    Purely for the record, the Army taught me to drive in 1942 and I've been driving ever since, some 73 years.

    Ron
     
  3. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Just watched, The Battle of the River Plate. Very much enjoyed the political nature of the situation.
     
  4. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

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  5. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    The similar ones they have had in the past have been very good (I must remember to record them and watch later).
     
  6. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    I watched the first episode (of two) of 'Colditz' on ITV3 on Saturday evening. I did not bother watching the second episode. To be perfectly honest, it was dreadful.

    With a highly creditable cast it had the potential of being excellent. In my opinion the subject was poorly researched and the story lines completely unrealistic. Apparently, the mini-series was first aired in 2005. I must have missed it first time round. Again, just a personal opinion, but hopefully it will be out to sleep for at least another ten years!
     
  7. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Coming up tomorrow, Monday 14th December on Channel 4, 9pm
    Guy Martin
    "Our Guy in Latvia"

    TV star Guy Martin thought his ­grandad Walter Kidals was a quiet man who pottered around his tool shed, tended sheep in his back garden and wore a suit on the beach.
    But Walter had a secret history fighting for Adolf Hitler and the Nazis.
    As a conscript in the ferocious Latvian Legion, he battled against the Russians as they advanced into Nazi-occupied Europe.
    Remarkably, he survived, despite seeing his best friend shot by a sniper and his fellow soldiers crucified by the roadside.

    More here:
    http://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/celebrity-news/tv-star-guy-martin-my-6997445
     
  8. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    An interesting, if rather grim, family story about WW2.
     
  9. 17thDYRCH

    17thDYRCH Senior Member

    Generation War on Super Channel.

    Description states it is the German version of the Band of Brothers
     
  10. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    The Germans win the war on their own?
    ;)
     
  11. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    I can remember watching this a while ago on what I at first thought was BBC4 - actually it appears to have been on BBC2 (which is quite unusual these days for the Beeb, to put a foreign language miniseries on 2 rather than on 4). I think I thought at the time that it was quite well produced but drama, not really history.

    Just reading the wiki page:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_War

    I hadn't realised that it was quite so controversial abroad though:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_War#Reception

    3 episodes is probably too little to do justice to the broader story that people want to be told, though I don't know what kind of reception it would have had if it had gone all out to try to tell answers to all the "troublesome questions" that some are saying that they would have liked it to better address.

    I wonder though if it couldn't have succeeded better as a collaborative effort i.e. with a mix of countries of origin having input in its production rather than just the one. If they were originally aiming to market it internationally, from the comments I've so far seen they appear to have had their domestic market perhaps too much in mind in the stories that they chose to tell and hadn't really put enough thought into how it would appear in some of the countries that they sold it to.
     
  12. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

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  13. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Thanks Ron for the review...will watch with interest.

    Looks like a very interesting account of individual survival as many who survived have revealed over the years.

    I wonder why he was sent on to Belsen (although it was a last gasp of the regime to hold on to prisoners/detainees)......may have been seen as an exchange prisoner since Himmler used Belsen also to imprison Jews who he thought would be attractive in an exchange deal for Nazi personnel held by the Allies.
     
  14. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Amazing account Ron,

    Exactly as you said compelling and well worth viewing.

    Rm.
     
  15. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

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  16. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    A very interesting account of Freddie Knoller's survival against the odds.

    There were many of the Jewish faith who left Germany or Austria for France prewar although Freddie left for Belgium thinking that these locations represented safety.Then they were caught up with Hitler's sweep west and were deported to their deaths with the collaboration of Vichy.
    .
    Interesting regarding Figeac, a most beautiful area in the Lot to holiday in and a centre of resistance during the occupation.Freddie's arrest by the French police is an example which occurred to many through denunciation for a variety of reasons.

    "Settlement in the East" one of the biggest acts of misinformation directed to those of the Jewish faith, hiding the ideological motivation of Hitler and his cohorts to exercise genocide.Those who saw through this propaganda usually had a better chance of survival and initiated evasion but families,being collective,were at the greater risk of being deported to the extermination camps in the east.

    Overall,a lesson in history now and for future generations.
     
  17. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Available on iplayer
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01pkj2m/fifties-british-war-films-days-of-glory
     
  18. Incredibledisc

    Incredibledisc Well-Known Member

    Anyone catch this? World War Two: A Timewatch Guide: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b071gx2c via @bbciplayer Haven't had a chance to watch it yet but was drawn in by the mention of Saul David's name.
     
  19. Brian Smith

    Brian Smith Junior Member

    This may have been around before but new to me.

    Storyville at 9.00pm on BBC 4 on Wednesday 30 March.

    Interview by Philippe Sands of the sons of 2 indicted war criminals. The information says Sands lost much of his Jewish family at the hands of high ranking Nazis including the fathers of the 2 interviewees, one who now despises his father and one who refuses to condemn his. A harrowing tail.

    Brian
     
  20. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    I've only watched The Colditz Story the once and it didn't make much of an impression on me (yet I liked the board game ;)), but the other two are serious pieces of film making. The Cruel Sea is quite moving - not least due to Jack Hawkins' laconic stoicism and the excellence of the source material; The Dam Busters still stands up today as a lesson in how to win the viewer's sympathies and generate tension. If nothing else, compare it with the last twenty minutes or so with the last twenty minutes of Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope and you may be in for a bit of a surprise - a shot-by-shot surprise at times.

    Part of me is excited and part of me dreads the long-overdue remake...
     

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