Wolf in sheeps clothing.

a distant cousin RK winner H. Baer/Bär and yes a captured US bomber servicemans flying jacket. Bär also wore an altered US fighter pilots mount several times with his LW Eps on the shoulders. the chap with the bomber flight jacket is ace Leo Schumacher who was Bär's Rottenflieger while in II./JG 1.

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Role reversal

 

That many late mark Spits???



Il-2 shot down and force landed, Ukraine Summer 42

 

Role reversal




Andy,

I think the Spitfire photo is taken from a recent war film. They had to use Spitfires because plenty are available unlike the Bf 109.

I think this also answers Za's query about the late Marques.

Regards
Tom

 

Thank you Andy, and sorry for my mix up with the Il-2, I thought I was posting in the captured thread!

 

I thought there would be a more logical reason, Cheers Tom.

 

I wonder if this is related to Post No.1

 

David Layne
This is a Heinkel 115 captured during the Norwegian campaign. Photographed on October 1st 1942 it had been modified for clandestine operations.


David , see "The Chronicles of a Nervous Navigator" by ohn Iverach Ex 240 Squadron , he was one of the men whoc rewed this captured HE-115.

 

A Bf-109 F-4 under USA colours

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Me_109F-4_us.jpg

 

The Germans on at least one occasion marked their own Aircraft with British markings.

It seems that enemy Aircraft marked in such a manner made an attack on Allied Forces in Belgium of 1st January 1945.

For some reason the File on the incident was only opened in 2007.

 

Adn199

Can You provide more info about these attack ?

 

1st Jan 1945? Unternehmen Bodenplatte? Using Allied markings? That's news to me.

 

"German "Operation Bodenplatte" is an airborne attack against allied airfields in Belgium, the Netherlands and northern France. The operation suffers from a lack of trained pilots and insufficient coordination with the ground units. A considerable number of Luftwaffe planes is shot down by friendly anti-aircraft fire"

These considerable number of loses by friendly-fire maybe...because these "fake makings"???

 

Duvido muito, Adriano, I never heard of any faked markings in Op. Bodenplatte. Faked markings were used in very rare instances in the entire war. What is more than likely was that at a time where the LW was able to put up so few airplanes, any machine in the air was perceived to be an Ally. So it's quite natural that fast planes at low altitude got shot a lot, because in such conditions forrmal identification is quite difficult and the "if it moves, shoot it" principle applies.

A good book on the subject here.

 

This came in the post today, Original photo of a captured german Messerschmitt 109 ? has a emblem on the side of the engine,
Keith

 

This came in the post today, Original photo of a captured german Messerschmitt 109 ? has a emblem on the side of the engine,
Keith

Italian emblem?

 

A cousin of this, perhaps?



Oops, the caption refers to the image above, this should be Bf109 G-10, etc. etc. 5ª Squadriglia II Gruppo Caccia ANR*, March 1945. Not the same plane of the pic, but related surely.

* Aeronautica Nazionale Republicana - the post-1943 Fascist rump.

 

That is a Fast ID of the emblem its only been on a few mins.
Thanks.
Keith