WWII rifles and handguns? Got pics?

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Jay5oh, Mar 27, 2007.

  1. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Sadly Brenda's a deac mate. The Birmingham proof-house has ensured It'll never fire again, so technically an ex-gun. Wonder what runners sell for in the US?, JT has referred to wartime MG's fetching very high prices.
     
  2. Jay5oh

    Jay5oh Junior Member

    Bummer that it's deact'd. Still a very cool conversation piece :D When was it made? I don't know much about them.
     
  3. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    Sadly Brenda's a deac mate. The Birmingham proof-house has ensured It'll never fire again, so technically an ex-gun. Wonder what runners sell for in the US?, JT has referred to wartime MG's fetching very high prices.

    Alas Von, another full auto buys the farm. I am very glad your taking good care of Bren. Nice with cover and box, I'm very impressed...a little jealous.

    Jay, Garrands are alot of fun at the range aren't they?

    Try grabbing a K98 at your next couple of gun shows. If you don't have one already they're great on the range.

    Although, it's real tough keeping the grin off your face grouping center target with an MP-5.:D
     
  4. jacobtowne

    jacobtowne Senior Member

    Jay:
    Give Scott Duff a call. Perhaps he'll have suggestions for slings.

    Scott Duff Publications & Historic Martial Arms: M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M1903, Krag, M1911A1


    Turner makes decent repros:

    Turner Slings


    Also, one never knows what the quartermasters will discover hidden in Army warehouses. Recently they found 12 million rounds of .30 caliber ammunition made at Lake City in the 1960s-70s. It was linked, so CMP sent it to Talon for de-linking and boxing. Good stuff. A few years ago someone discovered crates of tan web pistol magazine pouches for the M1911, made by Mills in 1918. I bought one for $5.

    JT
     
  5. jacobtowne

    jacobtowne Senior Member

    This is the only one of my rifles that I have digital images of. One of these days...

    It's a SMLE No. 1 Mk. III, made at B.S.A. in 1927 for what reason no one seems to know, since there must have been million of the things in store left from the Great War.

    It's a wreck of rifle. Looks like it went through two wars. The bore is worn but it still shoots fine. The .303 cartridges are military surplus made in South Africa in 1980.

    And for anyone with sharp eyes - after I took the photos I learned how to load the clips correctly.

    JT
     

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  6. Jay5oh

    Jay5oh Junior Member

    Thanks for the links Jacob. I'm going to try and hold out for a "vintage" leather one. There are a couple on ebay right now I'm watching. I *may* settle for a web sling. They are more plentiful and I think would be period correct also.

    Tell me about the SMLE, I don't know much about them.
     
  7. Jay5oh

    Jay5oh Junior Member

    Herroberst, I have a Mauser 98. :)
     
  8. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    What's the code on the 98?
     
  9. Jay5oh

    Jay5oh Junior Member

    Where would the code be located? I'll get some pics tomorrow....
     
  10. Herroberst

    Herroberst Senior Member

    Where would the code be located? I'll get some pics tomorrow....

    On the receiver ring, like this(see part 14) on the top

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    This is what I call a collection....someday

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  11. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Better get cracking now HO, they can only get rarer.
    Even the deacs of 'classic' types seem to increase in price by £50 or so every year.
     
  12. Jay5oh

    Jay5oh Junior Member

    Mine says byf then under that 44......no clue what that means
     
  13. jacobtowne

    jacobtowne Senior Member

    byf is one of the codes used by the Mauser Works at Oberndorf. 44 is the year of manufacture.

    JT
     
  14. TomcatPC

    TomcatPC Member

    Hello
    Here is my Smith & Wesson M&P "Victory Model" Revolver, this is the British Contract version with a 5" barrel and chambered for the .380" Revolver Cartridge (aka ".38 S&W, or .380"/200). Also in the photo is a Canadian made .380" Mk. IIz 12 round cartridge box from 1943.
    Cheers
    Mark

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  15. TomcatPC

    TomcatPC Member

    This is my N0.4 Mk.1* Rifle, this is a 1942 Savage version. I bought this rifle in Anchorage, Alaska for $100 (U.S.). It had been chopped up ("sporterized") and I pieced it back together the best I could.
    Cheers
    Mark

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  16. TomcatPC

    TomcatPC Member

    And here is my No.1 Mk.III Rifle. This rifle I got in "sporterized" condition as well, I paid $70 (U.S.) for this rifle 2 or 3 years back. It was made by Birmingham Small Arms Company and assembled in 1940. I say "assembled" in 1940, because the date marking has had the "40" stamped after the other markings. This rifle came with the slot for the "magazine cutoff" which I believe was discontinued shortly after the War started. So, going by that and the dodgy date stamping, I have a gut reaction that the action body was made pre-War and put together as a complete rifle after the War started. Sort of a "mystery" rifle in a way..LOL.

    I have a feeling that even though the slot for the cutoff is present, no cutoff was put on the rifle. I added the cutoff, it can be removed if need be. I think this rifle served in India after the War, as the barrel has post-Indian Independence markings.


    The wood set on the rifle at this time is not correct as it is a post-War Indian made version. When I find the correct British made wood set, I plan to correct that.
    Cheers
    Mark

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  17. stevew

    stevew Senior Member

    Hi Tomcat,

    Love your Lee Enfields, and can't believe what you paid for them, you would have to pay double what you paid for the pair just to get a smelly here in the UK.

    My 1917 MkIII* doesn't have a cut-off, and was one of the things that was removed with the * version I believe (as well as the volley sites), although I was told that during WW1 they would grap hold of anything to make a rifle so you can see a MkIII* with a cut off. I'm glad you commented on the furniture, as I thought I haven't seen one like that.

    Here's a piccie of mine, rebuilt with new furniture and barrel - I'll try and do a better one

    Steve

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  18. machine shop tom

    machine shop tom Senior Member

    This is my modest collection of military guns.

    tom
     

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  19. TomcatPC

    TomcatPC Member

    Hello once more.

    That is one great looking SMLE, Steve. I hope to have a Great War Lee-Enfield rifle soon. About the new wood you put on, is it a newer made reproduction, or older made New Old Stock? You did a great job from what I can tell from the photo.
    Cheers
    Mark
     
  20. Arsenal vg-33

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