Aircraft history.

Discussion in 'The War In The Air' started by Topfmine, Oct 23, 2020.

  1. Topfmine

    Topfmine Active Member

    In the Woolmer forest area of Hampshire Bordon, there were a few crash sites during WW2 and some unexplained ones. In particularly a Blenheim IV L8794 from 53 squadron which crashed on Broxhead Common Bordon 04/08/ 1940 and a Mosquito that crashed Temple hill Blackmoor which could be Mosquito FB.VI 107squadron which mentions Bradshott hall near Blackmoor on the 15/10/1944, the original story not mentioned in the books but eyewitness reports states the crew of two were killed when they hit monkey puzzle trees and flipped and tumbled in a nearby field.
    Is there a way to look up the full history of each aircraft and its demise, although i have some info to go on whats the best way to find out and where are such records held.
     
  2. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    History - Form 78 is the aircraft movement card lists to what units and dates assigned - From RAF Museum Hendon. Without dates Air Britain serial books - from library loan or purchase.
    RAF Register series (sample cover shown)

    Demise - If not due to enemy action Form 1180 - RAF Museum Hendon. Loss series of books Cummings, Franks, Chorley, McNeill dependent on command - from library loan.

    If unit known then ORB download from The National Archives.

    Form 1180 for L8794 attached for example

    Ross
     

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  3. Topfmine

    Topfmine Active Member

    Thanks Ross so it is confirmed that a Blenheim did crash on Broxhead common. Just trying to read what the cause was. Many thanks all the same. I will try and find the Mosquito crash.
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  5. Temujin

    Temujin Member

    I looked up the Summary of Events documents for 107 Squadron, for the 15/10/44.......and found this information that may help your search on the Mosquito.......which is shown as Mosquito VI HR239, coded ā€œEā€

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  6. Temujin

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  7. Temujin

    Temujin Member

    Source: WW2 De Havilland DH98 Mosquito Loss & Accident Records, Transfers etc
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  8. Topfmine

    Topfmine Active Member

    Thanks for the information, much appreaciated.
     
  9. Topfmine

    Topfmine Active Member

    I am trying to find the crash site near aprox location of a Wellington Bomber that crashed at the back of Longmoor camp, killing all on board returning from a bombing mission from France. Although i have details i was wondering if the recovery crew who had to find the wreck to remove from site had a log with details naming near exact location.
     
  10. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    Yes to log by recovery crew - but most probably not a document that would have been identified for preservation.

    ORB for parent MU for the team may have mention - but usually focus on monthly reporting rather than daily detail.

    Inconsiderate of them - not to realise that in 80 years time one person would have need for a single source chapter and verse document - and to archive it.

    Ross
     
  11. Topfmine

    Topfmine Active Member

    I assume the recovery team would be of the same branch, RAF not Army. They must have been given the near exact location for them to find any crash and address or map reference? I wondered how the procedure went towards recovery, who contacted who to start with. Was a local recovery team for the area notified or was it a team from the station where the aircraft was based. Did the aircraft or parts go to a crash depot or back to the nearest station locally or original station where the aircraft took off from. A new area of the RAF i am new to and learning to find out from, part of the RAF most people overlook.
     

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