17125 Lieutenant Colonel Harry Francis Keir WEDDERBURN, 8th Bn Black Watch: 05/02/1943

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  1. Rorerickdew

    Rorerickdew New Member

    Can anyone please help in tracing where Lt Col harry Francis Kier Wedderburn was killed on 05 Feb 1943 at the age of 43??
    He is buried in St Andrews but place of death is illusive
    Many thanks to someone in advance
     
  2. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Casualty returns have theatre as "Home " so in the UK and him as dangerously ill then died (so illness rather than killed)- his officer number is 17125 in case that helps anyone else with their checking
     
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  3. jmcq

    jmcq Junior Member

    Born 1899 in St andrews, married in St andrews 1929 but no death in scotland recorded
     
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  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Death registered in Bournemouth

    WEDDERBURN, HARRY FRANCIS KEIR 43
    GRO Reference: 1943 M Quarter in BOURNEMOUTH Volume 02B Page 1073


    Lt.-Col. Harry Francis Keir Wedderburn was born on 5 April 1899.1 He was the son of Harry George Wedderburn and Jane Trevelvan Carmichael.2 He married Mary Sharp Bethune, daughter of Lt.-Col. Henry Alexander Bethune and Elinor Mary Watt, on 5 October 1929.1 He died on 5 February 1943 at age 43, on active service.1
    He fought in the First World War.1 He fought in the Second World War.1 He gained the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel in the Black Watch.1
    Children of Lt.-Col. Harry Francis Keir Wedderburn and Mary Sharp Bethune
    Person Page

    If you require more info apply for his service records

    Get a copy of military service records

    Also the war diary might assist


    LIEUTENANT COLONEL HARRY FRANCIS KEIR WEDDERBURN
    Service Number: 17125
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)

    8th Bn.

    Date of Death
    Died 05 February 1943

    Age 43 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    ST. ANDREWS WESTERN CEMETERY

    Sec. H. Grave 242.

    United Kingdom
     
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  5. Rorerickdew

    Rorerickdew New Member

    Thank you all for this information. I had found that he had been wounded in Normandy, but no real evidence. I do appreciate your help as we are going into an era where the moto seems to be that of “ today” and how can we disrupt the past. I find it sad but possibly my years.
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    A little confused here

    Its shown that he died in Feb 1943 - so unless he was in SOE or a Commando not sure how he would have been wounded in Normandy (assuming we are talking here of D Day (1944)) this could be the reason you are not finding any evidence ????

    TD
     
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  7. Browno

    Browno Fake news challenger

    There were British units fighting in Upper Normandy in 1940. He could have been wounded then if he had been with 4th Black Watch.
     
  8. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    If he had been wounded in 1940 he would be recorded on the casualty lists and the first mention is 1942-43 as dangerously ill - all the things that people die of in peacetime don't call a ceasefire because there is a war on, people still have heart attacks, get cancer, fall down stairs etc
     
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  9. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

    His probate entry is no more helpful, just the standard "on active Service" as with any serviceman in harness who died in WW2. Although when received it usually includes the grant of probate which may be more specific ?
    Cost £ 1.50 from here.
    https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar#calendar
     

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  10. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    You need his death cert that will confirm cause of death as stated it was possible illness

    otherwise you will go around in circles and you making assumptions on his cause of death
     
  11. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Sadly:
    Wedderburn.jpg
     
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  12. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Very sad end, and it wasn't even a quick one - hopefully during his time in hospital he was unconscious and not suffering even more, at least it answers the question
     
  13. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    More on his service history:
    Wedderburn2.jpg
     
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  14. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Wedderburn3.jpg
     
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  15. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Great work Tony well done
     
  16. Rorerickdew

    Rorerickdew New Member

    Just to thank you all for your great help. Very much appreciated and will pass it on to the Golf Club Museum.
    Roderick
     
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  17. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    A comment from a Black Watch veteran:
     
  18. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    His Probate notice says "Sealed, Llandudno, July 17th" 1943.
     

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