Discussion in 'Recce' started by Recce_Mitch, Jun 6, 2010.
If this list is incomplete please let me know
Paul, Brilliant work, many thanks - away from my records just noow more in due course, Best wishes, C
Thanks so much for this.
70 years ago today these lads were well and truly at the sharp end.
Welcome to the forum Vin
I just managed to find my grandfather on your list. Trooper Thomas Brown 3859202.
He left for the war leaving his pregnant wife waiting, but sadly died on the Burma Railway before he had chance to return home to see his new daughter (my mother).
Thank you for making your information available - I'm gradually piecing together fragments of his brief life. All I had before your information was a single photograph of him on his wedding day and his name.
I have a note that 3859202 Pte T Brown enlisted into the Loyals (probably 5th Battalion which became 18 Recce on 30 April 1941) on 18 Jan 1940 and died in Japanese hands on 17 December 1943. There is a useful account of the Battalion in the History of the Loyal North Lancs 1919-1953 by Capt CGT Dean MBE, published in 1955 you should be able to obtain a copy from the library or through abe.com. He was initially held in Changi Jail in Singapore and then moved overland on 27 April 1943 in party F (?) along with many other members of 18 Recce. His wife was Mary of 25 Hardy Street, Bolton. His POW record card in the TNA will have more information. You may be aware that 18 Recce had the added misfortune of being sunk when the Empress of Asia carrying them to Singapore was attacked by Japanese dive bombers and they took casualties and had to abandon ship. I do hope this helps. Do get back to me if you need more ..... my special interest is the Recce Corps!
Vin / Blackhole,
Welcome to the forum.
Welcome to the forum Vin and Blackhole.
Great to have other Recce's on here
Welcome to the forum Vin and Blackhole.
Here is a photo of Trooper Thomas Brown's name on the Singapore Memorial
Grave ref 6.A.50
was an honour to visit the grave of my Grandfather in 2008.
Hi Pauline, welcome to the forum. Do you have any photos or other information about your Grandfather you might like to post on the forum.
Hi my name is tony bateman and my dad (ted) edward james bateman ... (from kentish town,north london)...was enlisted into the 5th loyals 18/ 07/ 1940 -18th division recce corps 6918583,he too was on the empress of asia when it was bombed..he was then in changi prison and eventually 17/03/1942 sent overland in "d" force col lilly in charge) to kinsaiyok onto ,hintok,pack of cards bridge,hell fire pass, to work on railway and eventually (after 3 yrs as prisoner} was at nakhom nai (non officers camp RSM STIMPSON in charge) when war ended (japanese surrender) 1945...he never talked about this and it was only when he died 11th dec 1981 age 66 (leyton london that his sister joan told me about his ww2 history and i went to the national archives at kew and got this info from w344 and w345 govt records which had his japanese prisoner card and his liberation form (names of camps,any atrocities witnessed etc)..i never knew any of this as the one thing i have learned is most did not want to speak about this when back in uk..dad died in whips cross hospital 11/12/1981 age 66..he had had a metal plate put in his stomach in the 50s..his sister joan told me about dads ww2 after he had died..
Hi Tony welcome to the forum, always good to have another Recce on Board. Do you have any photos of your father that you could share on the forum?
Welcome to the forum Tony. Lovely to have another Recce here
my dad edward james bateman..from kentish town north london nw5....6918583 5th loyals 1940 at fullwood barracks preston sent to singapore ( although they never knew this) from liverpool via halifax canada on the reno del pacifico then transfered to the american ship mount vernon to cape town south africa then eventually ended up in bombay transfered to the ill fated empress of india.....i went to the national archives in kew and looked at 2 boxes W345 & his liberation form that he filled out on ship home at end of war..on his japanese card..
changi...17/02/1942 to 21/03/1942..then overland to kinsaiyok (D force} col LILLY in charge..later D force went onto hintok,(pack of cards bridge)..then col McEACHERN took over command of D force.was.also stationed at kanburi,,tarsau konyo,(,hell fire pass)..his last camp was a non officers camp at nakom nai ( rsm stimpson in charge. .18/09/1944 to12/08/1945..(japanese surrender)..i was born in 1947 and my parents divorced around 1955..so i lost contact with my dad..till mid 1970s when he contacted me thru my aunt (his sister) wanting to see me and my family which we did.until he died in whipps cross hospital 11-12-1981 age 66 , (he had stomach problems relating to his ww2 captivity and had a metal plate inserted in his stomach in 1950s..he had remarried and lived in leyton,london..(he never talked about his ww2 and it was his sister joan who told me after he had died about the death railway and so my journey began thanks to the internet..i have his medals which i claimed from the military) (free)..i have as yet not sent for his army.records)...i wish he had told me of his ww2 when he was alived...BUT the one reccuring thing i have found out over many years is most survivors did not want to talk about it.........tony bateman
First time on this site & struggling to reply! Thought there might be a separate box to reply in. Just wanted to say thanks for excellent work done on Roll of Honour. My dad, Fred Lonsdale Thompson, is there. Many thanks!
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Hi Jawan, Is there a list anywhere of the members of the 18th Recce? I hope to upload a photo of B Company taken in Bombay 1942 (between 15th & 23rd Jan). My dad is front row 2nd left. I know he was on the Empress of Asia; was a PoW in Changi; went to the infamous railway (record says CHA/OVL 9/10/42) but don't know where; somehow got from there (via Singapore?); then to Iruka (Singapore Maru?); then was unfortunately killed in a rock fall down th mine in 1945, 6 months before the end of the war! How can I fill in the gaps?
Hello, my name’s Zoe and my grandfather was Corporal Robert Langhorn Stubbs (5950934) 18th Recce (5th Battalion). Sadly he died when my father was a month old so they never had the chance to meet. I’m travelling to Singapore at the end of September for the first time and plan to visit the memorial while I’m there. I am trying to find out more details about his brief life. All I know is that he died before 15 February 1942, he was a driver and he had a grave in Changi but I can’t find any record of it online. Thank you for the information you’ve posted so far. Any guidance on how I can find out more information would be gratefully received.
Welcome Zoe, you say that your grandfather died before 15 Feb 42, according to the CWGC it was between the 5th and 15th
For more information on his actual service you should obtain his records, these are the only source and where you should start, the process for obtaining records can be found here: Service records
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