2 Class B 7 LIAP

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  1. Tony Wait

    Tony Wait Member

    Dad’s Artillery Tracer Card has ‘DRAFT RKAFL India 28-12-45.'

    In his regimental diary I found this written for the 26th December ‘ "12 O.R’s Repat and Release inc 2 Class B 7 LIAP." Nothing else is mentioned in the diary that might match this draft. I’m confused. Could anybody explain what 2 Class B 7 LIAP means? And could this be the draft?
    Many Thanks
     
  2. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    I believe LIAP is "Leave In Advance of Python" - that probably doesn't help but may be a small step in the right direction
     
  3. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

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  4. Tony Wait

    Tony Wait Member

    Many thanks AB64 and bamboo43 for your kind help.
     
  5. PackRat

    PackRat Well-Known Member

    I forget where I read it, but I believe that there were three 'classes' of demob, which I think were:

    Class ‘A’ Release - the standard one, where personnel were demobbed according to their ‘Age and Service’ group (based their date of birth and enlistment date).
    Class ‘B’ Release - early release for those with vital industrial skills, or those returning to work of national importance.
    Class ‘C’ Release - early release on compassionate grounds.

    Taking a wild stab (that could be miles off) the way I would read that diary entry is "Twelve Other Ranks departed the unit for Repatriation and Release, with two of them being 'early leavers' with vital skills who had been granted a Class B Release and seven who had been granted Leave In Addition to/Advance of Python".
     
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  6. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    Class B also included men who were needed to assist in converting industries from war related production back to peacetime activities so as to ensure that there would be employment waiting for all the class As when they arrived back in Civvie Street
     
  7. Tony Wait

    Tony Wait Member

    Thank you for your kind help. I really appreciate your advice as I am trying to understand what my father went through in Burma.
    I am confused because his Tracer Card has:
    ‘DRAFT RKAFL India 28-12-45.’

    His regimental diary has for that date.12 O.R’s Repat and Release inc 2 Class B 7 LIAP.

    BUT he was given 28 Days LIAP on 26th August 1945 according to his military card. There is nothing on his military card regarding LIAP on 28.12.45? Could he have been given LIAP twice?

    I appreciate any help you can give on this.
     

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  8. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    It is very difficult (and frustrating) to reconcile 2 index cards when the answer will be recorded in full detail on his B103’s that have not been provided by MOD.

    I’m just wondering whether it is merely a coincidence that the WD mentions a body of men leaving the unit on LIAP about the same date as there is mention of a draft on his RA Tracer Card?

    I suspect that the mention of the draft actually concerns his return journey to India post LIAP.

    IIRC LIAP was usually for 28 days but he may have been retained in U.K. for some unknown reason (that will be recorded on his B103) such as personal illness/welfare or for a military reason etc.

    I don’t believe the mention of a draft on his Tracer Card is in connection with a further period of LIAP. From the hundreds of service records posted on the forum I haven’t seen mention of more than one period of LIAP. As far as I know the draft recognition codes weren’t used for men returning to U.K.

    Steve
     
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  9. Tony Wait

    Tony Wait Member

    Many thanks Steve,

    I know that he didn’t go back to the U.K. until 1946, (one of the few things he told me) so perhaps it was a return draft. I will continue hunting.

    Thank you for your kind help.
     
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  10. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce

    Hi Tony

    I think you should contact the MOD chase up the B103 forms Steve mentioned above. They contain a lot more info than the tracer cards and more accurate. Don't let them fob you off-we have had many instances over the years where forum members haven't received all the forms in the file because somebody didn't do their job properly!

    I remember one of our Veterans, Tom Canning, who unfortunately passed away a while back, saying it wasn't unusual for the army to write down wrong dates a lot of the time, after all let's face it, it was all done by hand and a lot of records to keep up to date! It was one of his pet hates, mine too, that the MOD staff should take more care when people are paying their 30 quid and not getting all the info. I appreciate that sometimes service records do have forms missing, but a phone call to them asking to check the records again may turn something up. (My father's service records have him in North Africa from 13 October 1942 to 16 July 1944, when in fact he had been in Italy for ages after North Africa!!!)

    Lesley
     
  11. Tony Wait

    Tony Wait Member

    Thank you so much Lesley. I have been trying to piece together Dad’s military service since receiving the almost illegible photocopies I received in 2008. I re-applied for his papers in January but now Corona Virus has struck I have no idea how much longer I will have to wait.

    I would like to say what a fantastic site this is and am so grateful for all the help and advice I have received on here. Thank you all so much!
     
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