3rd September 1939:Pilot Officer John Noel Laughton Isaac Royal Air Force 600 Sqdn.

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Pilot Officer John Isaacs of 600 Squadron became one of the first casualties on 3rd September 1939 when his Blenheim I crashed in Heading Street,Hendon while practising single engine approaches to RAF Hendon.This unfortunate accident ,which also killed one person on the ground ,resulted in the banning of all training flights at Hendon.


    from Hendon Aerodrome-A History- by David Oliver

    ISAAC, JOHN NOEL LAUGHTON

    Rank:
    Pilot Officer
    Service No:
    90721
    Date of Death:
    03/09/1939
    Age:
    28
    Regiment/Service:
    Royal Air Force

    600 Sqdn.
    Grave Reference
    Panel 2.
    Cemetery
    GOLDERS GREEN CREMATORIUM
    Additional Information:
    Son of Wilfrid John and Rosalind Mary Isaac, of Cardiff. B.A. (Oxon.); Solicitor.
     

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  2. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

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  3. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Surprisingly to me, there were (6) RAF deaths recorded for the 3rd September 1939. (CWGC)

    I have placed P/O Isaac first as he is confirmed as the first to die, 1 hour 50 minutes after the British declaration of war.


    ISAAC, JOHN NOEL LAUGHTON Pilot Officer 90721 03/09/1939 28 Royal Air Force United Kingdom Panel 2. GOLDERS GREEN CREMATORIUM

    BOWYER, FRANK ASTON Aircraftman 2nd Class 641028 03/09/1939
    Royal Air Force United Kingdom Sec. I. C. of E. Grave 412. BEBINGTON CEMETERY

    HART, GEORGE WILLIAM Aircraftman 1st Class 350110 03/09/1939 36 Royal Air Force United Kingdom Sec. C. Grave 13210. MIDDLESBROUGH (LINTHORPE) CEMETERY

    CUMMINGS, ELLARD ALEXANDER Pilot Officer 40803 03/09/1939 23 Royal Air Force United Kingdom Grave 1949. ABERDEEN (GROVE) CEMETERY

    WARREN, PHILIP HERBERT Aircraftman 1st Class 561954 03/09/1939
    Royal Air Force United Kingdom Sec. B. Gen. Grave 8076. PLYMOUTH (WESTON MILL) CEMETERY

    STEWART, ALEXANDER RONALD RENFREW Leading Aircraftman 521250 03/09/1939 24 Royal Air Force United Kingdom Sec. S. Grave 391. PAISLEY (HAWKHEAD) CEMETERY
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    3 September
    Pilot Officer John Noel Isaac of No.600 Squadron becomes the first Briton to die in the Second World War when his Bristol Blenheim crashes into Heading Street in Hendon at 1250hrs, 1 hour 50 minutes after the British declaration of war.
    British Military Aviation in 1939 - Part 2
     
  5. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    So - was it a solo flight, or did the rest of the crew survive the crash??

    (Doesn't a Blenheim have a 3 man crew?)
     
  6. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    Flown solo Dave. It was his second solo on the type.

    The report gives the time of crash as 12:35hrs rather than the 12:50 hrs in other online sources.

    Here is the AIB Report from AVIA 5/19 at the TNA.

    Ross
     

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  7. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    thanks Ross
    much appreciated

    regards
    Clive
     
  8. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    Cheers Ross (& Clive & Geoff) - nice to read the crash report for the first RAF casualty after war was declared.

    Any info on the other PLTOFF or 4 AC/LAC casualties on the day??
     
  9. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

  10. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    Thanks again Ross - that's the other PLTOFF & the LAC accounted for (in an aircraft I don't think I had heard of before)

    The 3 ACs probably were killed in a ground accident or somesuch
     
  11. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Pilot Officer John Isaacs of 600 Squadron became one of the first casualties on 3rd September 1939 when his Blenheim I crashed in Heading Street,Hendon while practising single engine approaches to RAF Hendon.This unfortunate accident ,which also killed one person on the ground ,resulted in the banning of all training flights at Hendon.


    from Hendon Aerodrome-A History- by David Oliver
     
  12. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  13. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  14. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Pilot Officer John Isaacs of 600 Squadron became one of the first casualties on 3rd September 1939 when his Blenheim I crashed in Heading Street,Hendon while practising single engine approaches to RAF Hendon.This unfortunate accident ,which also killed one person on the ground ,resulted in the banning of all training flights at Hendon.


    from Hendon Aerodrome-A History- by David Oliver
     
  15. BarbaraWT

    BarbaraWT Member

    It looks like we have another WW2 Casualty in our family. I found the Death notice for John Noel Laughton Isaac with this lovely photo of him, inside a book of my Father's (Mervyn W Thomas).
    John was the nephew of Dad's Grandmother, Kate Isaac.
    It's a sad end for a fine young man. He was the only son of Kate's brother Wilfred.
     

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  16. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Rather poignantly, his father, Wilfred, died on 3rd September 1953
    Family Group Sheet for Wilfred John Isaac / Rosalind Mary Featherstonhaugh (F2651) m. 2 Jun 1908 : Featherstone Family History
    From this website, John seems to have 3 rather unenviable "records"
    Remember Them
    Remember. Pilot Officer John Noel Laughton ISAAC. No.600 Squadron, Royal Air Force. Killed in a Flying Accident on the 3rd September 1939 aged 28.

    John was the son of Wilfrid John and Rosalind Mary Isaac, of Cardiff. In civilian life he was a well regarded solicitor. On Sunday 3rd September 1939, an hour and a half after Neville Chamberlain had declared war with Germany, John was at the controls of a Blenheim Mk 1f fighter (L1164) which was on a solo training flight from RAF Hendon, practising single engine landings. As he made a return approach to the airfield he stalled the aircraft and crashed near The Burroughs, Hendon, and was killed instantly. John is not only believed to be the first serviceman killed in the Second World War, but is also believed to be the first serviceman to be cremated during that conflict and the first Jewish casualty. His name is recorded on the Golders Green Crematorium, London.

    I'm a bit curious as to the "Laughton" part of his name, as that's a village near me in East Sussex connected to the Pelham family, which seems totally unconnected to the Isaac or Featherstonehaugh families of his parents.
     
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  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    His sister also had Laughton in her name

    Mary Laughton Isaac
    1909–1993
    BIRTH 24 JUN 1909 • Dinas Powis, Glamorgan, Wales
    DEATH NOV 1993 • Westminster, London, England

    TD
     
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  18. BarbaraWT

    BarbaraWT Member

    I wonder how John was in a situation where "he stalled" the plane? If he was practicing a single engine landing, he wouldn't want to stall. Does anyone know about the person he killed when he crashed? Very sad.
     
  19. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    see the above post no 6 and attachments
    nothing on the other casualty
     

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  20. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Barbara

    Not being a pilot , I read in the report (the conclusion by Vernonn Brown) something that should not be done when running only one engine (on a 2 engined plane) is to turn towards a dead engine. I would assume that then derates the only working engine on the outside of the turn and reduces power all the more leading to loss of air speed (a stall)
    Do we have any members that are/were pilots??

    TD
     
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