Hi everyone, Finally received my Grandfathers service records, need some help deciphering them. Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks Terry
Hi, I think 3 out of the last 4 attachments are duplicates of the rear of his AF B102 - the central registry index card? Have you got his attestation sheets and Military History sheet - usually a 4 page document - think it may be AF 200d? That will have all his postings and his medal entitlement. Steve Y
Sorry about this , have not been on the forum for a while and every thing seems to have changed a bit , can I move the thread as is or should I edit it ?
I already moved it, I'm sure members will help out soon. What particular bit of the records do you need help with?
Thanks Owen , that's very kind of you , I haven't posted all the bits I have , my problem is some of the date's don't match , as in his Service book it has ,couse of discharge 519 ( V ) RR 1940 ? While the paper work says ( discharged. 102 M. C. D 1 . 8 . 45 , I'm slowly getting a handle on where he served , correct me if I'm wrong . B. E. F 5.10.39 to 18.4.40 N.W.E 19.4.40 to 9.6.40 I think this was Norway ? Then home , then January 41 joined the Reconnaissance Corps , lots of training in England and Ireland . India , middle east and then M.E , North Africa and M.E again , then Home on 30.3.45 , but nothing about why he didn't go back to France with the 5th recce ?
Hi, I read it as - Disembarked UK & struck off BEF 18.4.1940 Embarked UK NWEF 21.4.1940 Disembarked NWEF 23.4.1940 Disembarked UK. 6.5.1940 NWEF is the Norway Expedition. I'm not a Green Howard's expert but expect you know from his Military History short which Battalion he was with in BEF & NWEF? I presume he was 1st Btn part of Sickleforce in NWEF? British Expeditionary Force order of battle (1940) - Wikipedia Note 3 on page 2 of this document confirms activities of 15 Infantry Brigade with BEF 1939/40 and their landing at Andalsnes, Norway 23rd April 1940. http://www.britishmilitaryhistory.c...loads/bmh_document_pdf/Sickle-Force-1940-.pdf Steve Y
Around this time every brigade had an Anti-Tank Company that was made up from men from each of the three infantry battalions within the brigade. Each battalion was responsible for forming a Anti-Tank Troop. Collectively the three troops made a company and the brigade dispersed them on the battlefield as they felt fit.
Thanks Owen. I'm using my iphone and didn't spot the detail - one of the reasons I mentioned the Military History sheet as it should have his regimental postings - and in bigger script than B103 permits! Regards Steve Y
Have Military History Sheet ( 1 ) also have form B 200 B statement of Service ( 1 ) Will post as soon as I can , sorry have to use my daughter's laptop , so might not be until next weekend , interestingly on the military history sheet part 9 , medals , decorations, it says 39 - 43 Star then 1-2-44 G.H.Q 2 Ech B.N.A.F ( 5 Recce Regt ) B2067 Recd , then Italy star, defence medal and war medal ??
Hi, From what you say his service in India doesn't qualify him for Burma Star and his Iraq service with PAIFORCE doesn't qualify him for Africa Star? Steve Y
Yes that's right , but what does ( 1-2-44 G H Q 2 ech B N A F ( 5th Recce Regt ) B2067 Recd ) mean , any Ideas ? By the way , I very much appreciate your interest and help , it's much appreciated , thank You Steve Y
Hi It looks to me that it means that on 1st Feb 1944 GHQ 2nd Echelon (an HQ admin unit) BNAF (British North Africa Force) received an Army Form B2067 from 5th Recce Regt. B2067 may have been the form submitted to show his eligibility for 39/43 Star. Steve Y
In WW1 army Form 2067 seems to be: Army Form B2067 Character Certificate, 24 April 1918. Army Form B2067 Character Certificate, 24 April 1918 | Online Collection | National Army Museum, London I would assume it continued to be the same into WW2?? TD
I see it also mentions 141 Fd Amd which is 141 Field Ambulance, & 104 GH will be 104 General Hospital. ( can't see where it says 114 GH ) I know VDTC = VD Treatment Centre. bit about VD in Italy from the NZ perspective. Rise of VD in Italy | NZETC ‘Since the occupation of Sicily and Italy the venereal rate has rocketted to more than 20 times the rate in UK…. In Italy the rate of sickness from VD is greater than the battle casualty rate. Italian women are causing as much damage to the army as the German men…. Hospitals WW2 - Scarlet Finders 104 British General Hospital Westbury 3/43 to 6/43 then to Algiers; Algiers 6/43 to 7/43 and then to Philippeville; Philippeville 7/43 to 1/44 then to Afrogola; Afragola 1/44 to 7/44 then to Rome; Rome 7/44 to 15/3/46 then disbanded see the thread about the X List for help understanding those entries. X lists (Service Records)
Thanks everyone , will post some more of my Grandfather's records today ( waiting for my daughter to come around ) I knew from reading , only the Enemy in Front , that the 5th Recce had the highest VD rate of the 5 Division during January 44 ( but My Grandad ) though my Aunt did say his nik name was ( shagger ) she thought it was because of him smoking shag tobacco , how wrong was she , I think I'll keep this one to myself thanks again every one , this is all brilliant stuff . Terry
Hi, Thanks for posting these additional papers. The only query it raises is in addition to his Campaign Medals. Hopefully the family have them? However - if not it may be because they were never claimed post war. There is usually a dated Army Medal Office stamp on the papers showing the entitlement and date of issue. If not issued NOK can still claim the medals. Regards Steve Y
