87306 Robert Blair "Paddy" MAYNE, DSO & 3 Bars, MiD, Royal Ulster Rifles & 1 SAS

Discussion in 'Special Forces' started by Owen, Oct 3, 2009.

  1. ww2ni

    ww2ni Senior Member

    "Colonel Paddy" was born on this day 100 years ago.

    The right man at the right time.

    Winner of the Distinguished Service Order 4 Times!!!
     
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  2. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    ww2ni,

    I will join you in remembering one of the pioneers of the SAS and a great all round soldier.
     
  3. Recce_Mitch

    Recce_Mitch Very Senior Member

    Shame he didn't get the VC that he was put up for.

    Cheers
    Paul
     

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  4. Bernard85

    Bernard85 WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    good day ww2ni.sm.today.02:45pm.lt colonel robert blair "paddy"mayne.D.S.O.AND 3BARS.he was certainly a great hero.thank you for posting regards bernard85 :poppy: :poppy:
     
  5. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    An excellent reminder of a very brave man.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  6. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

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  7. There are a number of books on "Paddy" Mayne, please can anybody recommend any which are well researched and historically accurate. I have noted these and dont know which to buy. Many thanks

    • Bradford, Roy; Dillon, Martin (1987). Rogue Warrior of the S.A.S.: John Murray Publishers.
    • Marrinan, Patrick (2013). Colonel Paddy: The Man Who Dared. Colourpoint Books.
    • O'Neill, John (2015). Legendary Warrior of the SAS - Robert Blair Mayne. Menin House.
    • Ross, Hamish (2003). Paddy Mayne: Lt Col Blair 'Paddy' Mayne, Sutton Publishing.
     
  8. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Of the four, the choice for me.

    Paddy M Hamish Ross.jpg

    Good luck with your research.

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.

    EDIT: The Marrinan one has, for me now, sadly had it's day, but it still holds a special place.

    Autographs
     
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  9. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    I bought the book "Paddy Mayne" Lt Col Blair 'Paddy' Mayne by Hamis Ross but couldn't get into it. I posted it to a friend.
    I was far more impressed by "Born of the Desert" by Malcolm James Pleydell which I purchased on Kindle.
    I don't feel that the SAS was the work of any one man but an amalgam of people beset by frustration, in a war that didn't seem to be going their way.
    Together they forged a distinguished team. Some of whom did not survive.

    I wouldn't buy any of them but would try to research the Regt from Archived documents or stories from men who were there.
    It would be a challenge, maybe impossible but Who Dares Wins
     
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  10. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    For me, all the recommendation that was ever needed for the Hamish Ross.

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.

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  11. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    Touché Jim.
    The one part page that I kept and my inspiration to buy Born of the Desert.
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    I fully respect your views on a book that I only read in part.

    Has no one else read any of these books?
     
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  12. Trackfrower

    Trackfrower Member

    Don't believe Strirling's version of things!
     
  13. I am grateful to you all, thank you
     
  14. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor



    (As mentioned in #1 now on YT)

    A very interesting program with a revealing end.
    Highly Recommended.
     
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  15. JimHerriot

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  17. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

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  18. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Reading the recommendations Recce_Mitch posted up in 2015 in his post at #23 here
    87306 Robert Blair "Paddy" MAYNE, DSO & 3 Bars, MiD, Royal Ulster Rifles & 1 SAS tells any folks that have read them.

    The VC recommendation by Mike Calvert, struck through (maybe by Monty, but could have been any of the signatories after Mike Calvert) and "VC" replaced with "3rd Bar to DSO" told the story in 1945.

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.
     
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  19. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Further to the record you have linked to David;

    Mr Shannon, in his "Private Members' Business Victoria Cross for Lieutenant Colonel Blair Mayne" diatribe has come out with some highly emotive (excuse me) bollocks* of the highest order, to wit:

    "That mistake stripped Blair Mayne of his hard-won honour and much of his self-esteem."

    And again;

    "resulted in Mayne being stripped of the award. Instead, he was given a third bar on his Distinguished Service Order (DSO)."

    Absolute codswallop.

    You cannot be stripped of something you have never received. A recommendation is not an award. Never gazetted, never awarded, never received.

    Whatever the truth of Paddy Mayne's action in April '45, Mike Calvert's recommendation itself should have been enough. If any officer senior to Mike Calvert whose hands his recommendation dropped through had put their weight behind it the recommendation would have held through.

    A "Civil servant" (Jack Ganning) may make observations regarding, but the subsequent choice/decision made by any senior officer hearing said observations would be theirs.

    The late Paddy Mayne. VC recommended but never signed off by the military mighty, never gazetted, never awarded, never "stripped of".

    A shame? A pity? Who knows?

    Always remember, never forget,

    Jim.

    * Emotive bollocks I know much about as over the years I have spouted much of the same ilk on many many many subjects. Guilty as charged, always.
     
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  20. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    I enjoyed reading the NI Assembly debate David, thanks for posting.

    I suppose when a controversial soldier disliked by the Army establishment recommends another controversial and disliked soldier for such an award, there was always going to be some push back.
     
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