Albert MOLLARD - A.M.P.e ? Tracer card

Hi,

Has anybody heard of A.M.P,e as a WW2 unit? I’m not sure if it’s the hand writing on the tracer card and it should say A.M.P.C.
Also is it normal for a WW2 soldier to keep changing regiments regularly? Another one on the card is LIAP)att 69 J/Bart? Think the last word is Bart but it could be Bant. Cheers. Chris

 

Auxiliary Military Pioneer Corps (A.M.P.C)

 

Would you know any more information about the AMPC? I was told that my grandad started as a gunner on the merchant ships heading to Russia and did a trip to the U.S. after this he was in North Africa got malaria the onto Italy. On the card Africa and Italy make sense but not sure on the trip to Russia??

 

Hi,

You've attached 2 partial screenshots of a RA Tracer Card from Ancestry. It would’ve been better for members here if you had downloaded and posted the complete image.

It is a centrally held index card commenced after his transfer to RA from AMPC and contains a snapshot of some of what is in his complete army service record - mainly listing his interpostings between various Light Anti Aircraft Units.

You ought to apply to UK MOD for his full service record via this link -

Requests for personal data and service records: a detailed guide

AMPC had various units and were basically a non combatant labour force engaged on lines of communication work.

Royal Pioneer Corps - Wikipedia

Steve

 

Why not send off for his official service records?
Get a copy of military service records
LIAP
http://ww2talk.com/index.php?search/5885041/&q=liap&o=relevance
AMPC
Search our collection | Imperial War Museums

 

I interpreted part of it.

His service number came from a block of numbers allocated to Royal Artillery (Field, Coastal & Anti-Aircraft).

Enlisted on 4/9/41. Transferred from AMPC, he transferred to Light Anti-Aircraft, Royal Artillery 26/8/1942. Have you got the whole photo as most of is cut in half? I can see a few units which are LAA. (Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment - My dad served in one in France, Belgium, Holland and Germany).

THE X (iv) LiST comprises all unposted reinforcements and incoming reinforcement drafts (on 12/7/1944. From there for furthur training up to 16/9/1944

He then went to BNAF, which is North Africa. Posted to 39 LAA Regiment from 17/9/44 to 16/1/1945. By that time, they moved from North Africa to Italy, I think?

Posted to 26 LAA Regiment on 17/1/1945.

Show the two full pages and I can interpret what else is there.

LIAP is a form of leave, taken whilst abroad. Too far away from The UK.

A few snippets I can work out.

I'll ignore the PM you sent me, as others were also doing the same thing.

 

Here's two of the full images sent to me by Chris.

 

all input and thoughts would be most welcome.

 

Is that correct, surely (Royal ) Pioneer Corps?
http://www.corpsofmilitarypolice.org/tools/armynumber?query=13105299

 

Does anybody know anything about the website, Forces War Records? Not sure if it would be worth subscribing or they will only have the tracer card too. I could send off for a copy of his death certificate (£50) and then a copy of his military record (£30) but bloody hell im only just starting and this could get expensive.

 

Service records are ONLY available from the official sources, also a death certificate WILL NOT cost £50 from official sources. BEWARE.
If you provide his full name, date of birth, date of death and location, I will try and locate details.

 

My personal opinion is steer well clear of FWR.

Don't know where you got £50 fee for Death Cert?

Sounds like it’s from a scam site as GRO charges approx £10.

Post some details and take up Tony’s offer

Steve

 

This forum gives free advice and it is free to join. The info you posted (ie: a copy of his movements information) would have originated from the MOD and is part of his service record. Only another family member, would have applied to The MOD and paid the £30 already. Who knows where it then came from.

People are at home looking for info about relatives and bored during this lock down. The numbers joining and posting everyday is evidence of that.

I've driven thousands of miles. Spent 1000's of hours in archives looking for information. Visited 4 countries in Northwest Europe. Photographed thousand of headstones across these countries, many times. Visited many amazing Cemeteries across those countries, seen and taken part in numerous commemorations. Spent 1,000's of pounds and EURO's. Other Forum Members have also done similar crazy things in pursuit of knowledge.

Everything I've done for free.

 

The image of the tracer card that has been posted is available online and is available to anyone, don't think it necessarily means that someone has already applied for his records.

 

Hi that would be great, his full name Albert Mollard DOB 29/11/1920 died on the 6/5/1983 in Bury Lancashire. Thank for the help guys this is very interesting stuff.

 

Sorry my response seems to have been included in the above quote box.....

 

Chris, thought that might be the man.

Here is his death record:

Here are probate details:

To get his death certificate you can:
1. get it by post, or
2. log in here and apply online, it is £11 - better than £50!
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

You need the details from his death record above, here is what you need to enter:

I cannot comment on delivery times under present circumstances.

You may have noticed that his dob on the death register is 28th, you say 29th which just happens to be the same as on the 1939 Register, it will be interesting to see what the death certificate states:


Good luck.

 

This may not be relevant to your search, but the AMPC was one of the first units that Italians, Germans, Austrians etc interned in this country could enlist in. Often they enlisted direct or almost direct on their release from internment. As the war progressed these men could then transfer to other units in the British Army.

There are many threads on this on the forum about the corps.

 

thanks Travers I will have a read of those threads.