British carriers

Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by Warlord, Nov 6, 2007.

  1. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    Were the Barras replaced with Avengers because, as the British Fleet was to finally fully enter the Pacific Theater (US Navy grounds) after the strikes at Sumatra (The NEI were closer to the CBI than to the Central Pacific TO), someone wanted standarization for the sake of supplies? Or was the design just too inferior? It´s true that they looked a bit odd, but I think operations in Norway against the remains of the Kriegsmarine showed their worth; besides, the Union Jack ships were left without truly dedicated dive bombers.

    Also, I didn´t know the British attacked Truk, even if the place, by the time, was just a little more than an underwater graveyard...
     
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  2. maxs75

    maxs75 Member

    The Avenger had better range (So important in Pacific) and also it was good to have the same torpedo plane (well, not often used as torpedo bomber, but often with rockets and bombs) as USN. Anyway the RN light carriers arrived in Pacific equipped with Corsairs and Barracudas, so FAA for sure had all Barracuda's spare parts at Sydney and Manus.

    Yes, Truk wasn't the same as in February 1944, when TF58 made the famous raid. It was often bombed by USAAF B-24, IIRC from march 1944. But it was good for live training, as were many bypassed islands.

    Max
     
  3. maxs75

    maxs75 Member

    Operation Inmate, Strikes on Truk, June 14 & 15 1945
    HMS Implacable:
    803 Squadron: Seafire L.III; Lt Cdr(A) L.D. Wilkinson, DSC, RNVR
    880 Squadron: Seafire L.III & FR.III; Lt Cdr(A) R.M. Crosley, DSC & bar, RNVR
    1771 Squadron: Firefly I; Lt Cdr W.R.J. MacWhirter, DSC, RN
    828 Squadron: Avenger II; Lt Cdr F.A. Swanton, DSC, RN

    Regards,

    Rich

    Rich,
    the first squadron of Implacable is No. 801, not 803.

    Max
     
  4. maxs75

    maxs75 Member

    BPF, July 1945, RN unless otherwise noted:

    Commander Carrier Task Force 37 - VAdm Sir Bernard Rawlings, KCB, KBE

    Implacable - Capt CC Hughes-Hallett, CBE
    38th Naval Fighter Wing - ????
    880 Squadron (Seafire) - Lt Cdr RM Crosley, DSC (w/Bar)
    801 Squadron (Seafire) - Lt Cdr S Jewers, RNVR
    828 Squadron (TBM) - Lt Cdr FA Swanton, DSC
    1771 Squadron (Firefly) - Lt Cdr WRJ MacWhirter, DSC

    Indefatigable Capt QD Graham, CBE, DSO
    24th Naval Fighter Wing - Lt Cdr NG Hallett, DSC (w/Bar)
    887 Squadron (Seafire) - Lt Cdr AJ Thomson, DSC, RNVR
    894 Squadron (Seafire) - Lt Cdr J Crossman, DSO, RNVR
    820 Squadron (TBM) - Lt FL Jones, DSC (w/Bar), RNVR
    1770 Squadron (Firefly) - Maj VBG Chessman, DSO, MBE, DSC, RM

    Victorious Capt MM Denny, CB, CBE
    47th Naval Fighter Wing - Lt Col RC Hay, DSO (w/Bar), DSC, RM
    1834 Squadron (F4U) - Lt Cdr PN Charlton, DFC
    1836 Squadron (F4U) - Lt Cdr JB Edmundson, DSC
    849 Squadron (TBM) - Lt Cdr AJ Griffiths, RN

    Formidable Capt P Ruck-Keene
    6th Naval Fighter Wing - Lt Cdr RL Bigg-Wither, DSC (w/Bar), RNVR
    1841 Squadron (F4U) - Lt Cdr Bigg-Wither
    1842 Squadron (F4U) - Lt Cdr DG Parker, DSC, RNVR
    848 Squadron (TBM) - Lt Cdr TGV Percy

    King George V (FltFlg) Capt BB Schofield, CBE
    ComCruSquad4 - RAdm EJP Brind, CB CBE
    Newfoundland (FlgCruSqd4) Capt RW Ravenhill, CBE, DSC
    Black Prince Capt GV Gladstone
    Euryalas Capt RS Warne, CBE
    Achilles (RNZN) Capt FJ Butler, MBE
    Uganda (RCN) Capt ER Mainguy, RCN
    Gambia (RNZN) Capt RAB Edwards, CBE
    Grenville (4thDesFlot) Capt RG Onslow, DSO
    Udine Cdr TC Robinson, DSC
    Urania Lt Cdr DHP Gardiner, DSC
    Urchin Lt Cdr AF Harkness, OBE, DSC, RD, RNVR
    Ulysses Lt Cdr BGB Bordes, DSC
    Undaunted Lt Cdr CER Sharp
    Quiberon (RAN) Cdr GS Stuart, RAN
    Quickwatch (RAN) Lt Cdr OH Becher, DSC, RAN
    Quality Cdr Viscount Jocelyn
    Quadrant Lt Cdr PC Hopkins
    Troubridge (2DesFlot) Capt GF Burghard
    Tenacious Lt Cdr GC Crowley, DSC
    Termagent Lt Cdr DC Beatty, DSC
    Terpsichore Cdr RT White, DSC
    Teazer Lt Cdr TF Taylor, DSC

    Indefatigable:
    No 1772 squadron, not 1770 Firefly from june 1945.

    Max
     
  5. Mikeo

    Mikeo Member

    I've been reading the thread about US carriers with teak decks ... very interesting. But how about the great battleships of WW1 and WW2 vintage in general, and RN battleships in particular?

    Was Vanguard the RN's last operational battleship? (When I was a boy I remember going on board Vanguard ... but can't remember whether she had a metal or a teak deck.)

    Did the great battleships of WW1 have teak decks? And how about the decks of earlier battleships (eg in the Russo-Japanese War) ... did they have teak decks? It seems strange given that the explosive power of the shells was so great even in those early days.

    Thanks in advance for comments ...

    M
     
  6. freebird

    freebird Senior Member

    I've been reading the thread about US carriers with teak decks ... very interesting. But how about the great battleships of WW1 and WW2 vintage in general, and RN battleships in particular?
    Did the great battleships of WW1 have teak decks?


    No.
    Only carriers had wooden decks
     

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