British Vehicle Markings - a rough guide

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by SquireBev, May 30, 2020.

  1. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    I have a question.

    When Brigades operated independently or out of the normal Divisional Structure like 23rd Armoured Brigade Group and 2nd Independent Parachute Brigade Group did in Greece, did they adopt AOS of the senior Brigade?

    It looks like 23rd Armoured Brigade Group did as this image below matches all of the photos I have seen of their tanks.


    Haven't yet found a single pic of a vehicle from 2nd Independent Parachute Brigade Group to test my theory yet.

    There were also only 24 tanks in Greece when the civil war started arriving on two separate ships in November 1944. Where should I be looking for a detailed list of the tanks ID numbers and whether they arrived on the first or second shipment?


    Last edited: Feb 8, 2021
  2. Christian Fletcher

    Christian Fletcher Active Member

    Will be very interested in what you can discover! I think the basic AoS markings are correct but what about the rest of the Group.
    At least until Feb 45 these units were under command:
    463 Bty 104 RHA
    1238 Fd Coy RE
    331 & 333 Transport Coys RASC
    150 Lt Fd Ambulance.

    Some of these AoS numbers are known for NW Europe but not for Italy/Greece. That I know of! Hopefully somebody knows differently! Cheers
  3. SquireBev

    SquireBev Active Member

    It's been a bit of a nightmare to collate, but here's my first attempt at a timeline for the North African campaign.

    Feedback and corrections welcome as ever.

    If anyone can shed any more light on the 4th and 7th Armoured Brigades in 1940-41 I'd be very grateful, as I'm sure the 7th and 8th Hussars couldn't be in two places at once!

    Apologies for the enormous image size. You might have to open them in a new tab to view them properly.

    Middle East - Armoured Divisions


  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I love the fact this rough guide is now at 200+ posts.

    'I know, lets get Allied military markings in order, It can't be that byzantine/complex, can it?!'

    Great stuff, and I really like the website.
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  5. SquireBev

    SquireBev Active Member

    And I haven't even started on the Far East yet!

    Thank you. Glad it's proven interesting.
  6. SquireBev

    SquireBev Active Member

    This weighty tome came in the post yesterday. Hopefully it'll help iron out a few inconsistencies in the timeline.

  7. Christian Fletcher

    Christian Fletcher Active Member

    Presumably Joslen? Very good indeed though it has its limitations and some inconsistencies! How he and his team even managed to put it together in the time that they had using only paper trails (some of which had been broken not once but several times!) I don't know. Even with computers this would have been a real beast! So all hail Lieut-Colonel Joslen!
  8. SquireBev

    SquireBev Active Member

    Yes indeed. Seems to be the first edition too so any errors won't have been corrected, but it's still a fantastic resource.

    I should have Volume II on the way too. Hoping it's just been delayed in the post...
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  9. SquireBev

    SquireBev Active Member

    Looks like Volume II of Joslen isn't coming, sadly. Turns out the listing was incorrect, and they've offered to refund me. Oh well.

    In the meantime I've been using Volume I to start on an overall timeline of armoured divisions and brigades, showing composition, seniority, commanders, and theatre.

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  10. SquireBev

    SquireBev Active Member

    Reckon I can include the AoS serials too...

  11. SquireBev

    SquireBev Active Member

    Big News!

    While I continue to work on the timeline diagrams, I've decided to move the site to a new home and a new host, so that I'll be able to upload PDF versions of the various diagrams, hopefully allowing them to be more easily read.

    Please update your bookmarks!

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