Hello Mike, The tables are screen grabs of some information that I put together. It was easier to do it that way rather than attempt to type it all on the forum and I can amend the table if I get more information. The information came from various copies of the Green List, a CD on LC that used to be for sale by these people http://www.history-on-cdrom.com/ plus a couple of other notes I have. The CD on LC contains the following in PDF format : ON 201 British LC December 1944, ON 226 Allied LC April 1944 and ON 226 Allied LC Supplement 1945. Two sections were published as a book sometime ago. Regards Danny
Hi Danny, I note they are no longer selling CDs and there isn't much info on their site about what they intend to do next. When you say 'Green List' do you mean the RN Green List (Minor RN vessel weekly returns)? I have never seen that info on a disk or book and would be interested to see a copy. I have been to TNA several times looking up Green List info for various reasons. BTW do you reckon those photos could be a match? Cheers, Mike
Mike, The colour photo you posted would be the fortification on the 'Isola di Capo Passero', located here 36°41'18.28"N 15° 9'5.25"E, so couldn't be a match due to its location on an island.
hey just a quick comment with regards to the use of Caunter pattern.... it was discontinued 1942 after Alamein when all MV paint schemes became standardised rather than different from unit to unit which it had been up until this point.... not to say vehicles may have still been displaying it...but i doubt it... lots of units who went from Tunisia and launched from Bizzerta to Scicily had the light stone base with dark brown / black wavey disruptive which looks about right for that Fordson/Morris coming off the landing craft. if i had a stab at a guess i would have said it was Sicily and a later landing of supplies... the floating pontoons are all in place and as previously stated it all seems a tad lax so a well established beach head with the front line miles away....or.... training exercise somewhere else....
Thanks to Sicily43 and his bridge clue I found the North beach and by deduction I located the other, 'South' beach. The North beach is pretty much untouched whereas there has been a lot of building on the Southern beach. Here are the two beaches: Northern beach with large building and bridge: 36°56'48.82"N 15°11'17.04"E Southern beach with two shacks and rock spur with cave: 36°56'17.39"N 15°10'44.23"E Check out the photos on Google Earth and you'll see it is spot on for both. Tom.
Hi Perfect Tom!!!!! I see better my book, this is "How" beach, from Cape Negro and River Cassibile where there was the border with "Gerorge" beach.
Just to update this thread: Sicily43 managed to identify the bridge and therefore the beach shown in the photo 031-3 below as that over the Cassibile River. Tommygunn then took picture 015 and did this fantastic Google Earth overlay. So both beaches positively identified as Sicily, Cape Passero. Great result. Thanks Sicily43 and Tommygunn, rep points sent. Clive Llewellyn (who's Grandfather took the original photos) is thrilled.
Great work, and sorry for the LST typo I did lok up the right one on u-boat.net but then typed it's number wrong. :-( .
Good work that man. Rep points awarded. sicily43 Hi Perfect Tom!!!!! I see better my book, this is "How" beach, from Cape Negro and River Cassibile where there was the border with "Gerorge" beach. Look what aerial photo I have in the 5th Div history, I've already posted it on forum elsewhere. Shame I didn't know what the land looked like on the ground.
It must be Beach No. 45 then. No. 32 Beach Brick worked Beaches 45 and 46. The core of No. 32 Beach Brick was 2nd Battalion, The Highland Light Infantry. The neighbouring beach in GEORGE sector was Beach No 44, worked by No. 33 Beach Brick (1st Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders). Great photos. Excellent thread. This really demonstrates the value of this forum.
Just stumbled across this thread and found it quite interesting. I am used to study the shade to find compass direction and relative distance to the equator.
The landscape looks like Sicily to me. The mountains in the background. The way the shoreline looks. And I think I see Americans and Britts together which would make sense. One of the ships appears to be flying the British flag it looks like a cargo ship. You might have pictures of operation "Husky" sometime after the initial main invasion. Check it out;Operation Husky - World War II Operation Husky Invasion of Sicily
Owen, Can you provide a hi-res copy of that aerial photo? Cheers, Tom. I'll rescan tomorrow but I also posted it here. http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/98039-post118.html Slightly larger. http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5233&d=1177175389
Thanks. Do you know what the 'Gun Area' is in reference to? No sorry, just read through a few pages of the Div history & can't find any reference to it.
