Coordinations on SAS maps and reports.

Discussion in 'Top Secret' started by athoclodge, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. athoclodge

    athoclodge Junior Member

    Hello, i'm working at me second book about the liberation of Holland. ;)
    but in many reports i find only shiphers en letters: exemple
    Ops is Keystone, pre ops for Larkswood.
    "1 Polisch Armed Division. 1 Polisch Inf Bde have field HQ at 206048 -225044-224049-215053" etc. these shiphers refer to some locations in Holland. Wat Maps are uesing the SAS, or is it an RAF Map. How to make the crosspoint between de 3 first and 3 last shiphers????

    so many quests, so little time:confused::confused::confused:
  2. 4jonboy

    4jonboy Daughter of a 56 Recce Patron

  3. Blutto

    Blutto Plane Mad

  4. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    You will need to use the Nord de guerre grid and assuming it is square QZ your first translation request will be qz206048, giving 52° 12' 46'' N 5° 06' 46'' E
    Paste those into google earth and you are within approx 800 metres any direction.
  5. athoclodge

    athoclodge Junior Member

    Thanks for al the intel, next year (2013) will be me first job to try out the translater.
    All the 111 documents i have are all about Operation Keystone, Operation Anger, Larkswood. From the SAS and SOE.

    thx, and all the luck in a new workyear.

    kind regards
  6. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    If the map references refer to Larkswood, does Kerkelanden/ Nieuw-Loosdrecht area seem right?
  7. athoclodge

    athoclodge Junior Member

    I think you could try this

    The "Coordinates Translator"

    dear Lesley,

    in me book, liberation of north Holland (bevrijding van Noord Holland) Operation Larkswood, i find the following configaretion "Q541041". I think it's SAS or SOE. But it is not working in the translater. Please can you give it a try.
    most of the marks strating whit a "v", but this one starts whit a "q". Is it possible that the combination has been send whit a jedburg???
  8. athoclodge

    athoclodge Junior Member

    If the map references refer to Larkswood, does Kerkelanden/ Nieuw-Loosdrecht area seem right?
    Dear 51 Highland,
    in me book about Operation Larkswood (The Belgian SAS) , the places Kerkelanden and nieuw Loosdrecht are not quoted. Can you give me een bigger place nearbuy, because i hav all the warmaps of North Holland.

    kind regards
  9. gacock

    gacock Junior Member

    They were using RAF maps as they were reliant on supplies from the RAF through parachute drops for food, ammunition and clothing. its obvious really when you think about it.
  10. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Dear Erik, I very much hope you may find this response somehow (and/or if any of your compatriots should see it hopefully they will bump the info on to you)

    With reference to Operation Keystone (Report by Major H. C. DRUCE) I can state with some certainty that when writing his after action report he used GSGS No. 2541 HOLLAND 1; 100000 Sheet 2 (UTRECHT) and Sheet 5 ('S HERTOGENBOSCH) Third Edition 1943.

    To illustrate this, for example, the first map reference given within Major Druce's report from 12th April "Bemmel, E 7367" is spot on (as much as it can be when just quoting four digits) on SHEET 5 ('S HERTOGENBOSCH).

    Another example, Major Druce's report 14th April "We moved to just South of Deelen aerodrome (E 736872) where we were fired on by German S.P." is again spot on SHEET 2 (UTRECHT).

    All the other map references from Major Druce's report on Operation Keystone plot correctly on these maps.

    Hope this helps, apologies for this being such a late reply, I am a newcomer to the WW2 Talk website.

    Good luck with all your endeavours.


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