Crossing point of the Rhine by the 15th Scottish Division at Xanten

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  1. Mick Thompson

    Mick Thompson Member

    I am trying to locate the crossing point of the Rhine by the 15th Scottish at Xanten. Does anyone know where it is please? I have attached a screenshot of a possible location.
     

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  2. Trux

    Trux 21 AG Patron

    Mick,

    There were several crossing points. I hope the map below helps.

    upload_2023-2-17_9-42-4.png

    There is a thread about Operation Plunder with particular reference to 15 Division on this forum. Several members contributed. Using the search function at the top of the page should find quite a lot of information.

    Mike
     
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  3. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

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  4. Mick Thompson

    Mick Thompson Member

    Thanks Mike - yes, have been looking at this map. I was trying to find out on the ground, the crossing points. There are some access ramps/metalled roads to the Rhine, as shown on Google Earth, in several locations in this area. Just wondered if they were the actual crossing points?
     
  5. Mick Thompson

    Mick Thompson Member

    Thanks 51 Highland
    I will check out those diaries. Though not sure which unit my Grandad took over in the Buffaloes, as his diary just says '15th Scottish'. I think it was either 8th Bn The Royal Scots or 6th Bn The Royal Scots Fusiliers.
     
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  6. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    I wonder if anyone here has the war diary for his regiment. That would probably be helpful.
     
  7. alberk

    alberk Well-Known Member

    The metalled roads were built as NATO crossing points in the 1970s, maybe late 60s. The one upstream is exactly at the spot where the first Class 40 Bailey bridge was built across the Rhine.
     
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  8. Kai_H

    Kai_H Member

    Hi,

    The 15th Scottish Division crossed the Rhine by Raft and Stormboats at Scholtenhof near Wardt:
    Class 9 Raft and Stormboat Ferry (nearby, upstream)
    Location:
    in the amount of the boat entry point at street "Haus Lüttingen", near Wardt
    GPS:
    51°40'44.0"N 6°28'21.4"E
    51.678898, 6.472600
    I don't know if they crossed the Rhine elsewhere.

    The banks of the Rhine have been heavily altered in many places by gravel excavations and dyke relocations. The topography at that time can be easily compared on old aerial photographs:
    Regionalverband Ruhr - Luftbilder
    At the top right under "hist. Luftbilder" you can superimpose old aerial photos, for example from the 1950s, over the map.

    Best regards,

    Kai
     
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  9. Bedee

    Bedee Well-Known Member

    Operation Torchlight here you will find more details.

    Just a quick search in the Diaries, and yes one of the crossings of the Rhine was at the location Kai_H already mentioned.
    9 Cameronians crossed the Rhine NE of Wardt (Direction Mehr)
    2nd Bn The Gordon Highlanders, between 104461 to 093474

    Class 9 (build by 20 Fd Coy RE) bridge a bit to the west, See most left bridge on map Trux posted before.
    119 LAA Regt RA on 27 March 1945

    Footbridge east of main crossing area
    193 (Br) Field Ambulance.

    East of Luttingen.
    44 Lowland Brigade Crossed the Rhine
    6th Royal Scotts

    Mick Thompson, if you could be a bit more specific about the unit.
     
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  10. Bedee

    Bedee Well-Known Member

  11. Mick Thompson

    Mick Thompson Member

    Thanks Kai and Bedee for the info.

    I have found that it was either the 8th Royal Scots or the 6th Royal Scots Fusiliers, both transported by buffaloes of 11 RTR. Location, just West of Bislich, obviously on the West bank of the Rhine. The war diaries on the 15th Scottish War Diaries website is a great resource. https://www.15thscottishdivisionwardiaries.co.uk/war-diaries

    Regards MickT
     

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  12. ted angus

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  13. ted angus

    ted angus Senior Member

    I am scratching my head over 20 Fd Coy building the class 9. My dad was in this Coy, their war diary states the 3 sapper platoons crossed in buffaloes and stormboat with their infantry battalions to which they are normally assigned. ?
     
  14. Mick Thompson

    Mick Thompson Member

    Hi Ted

    Based on the 15th Scottish Division hierarchy, 20th Field RE were with 227th (Highland) Brigade and the Infantry units were 2nd Bn Gordons and 2nd Bn A&SH. So looking at the map I attached previously, it would have been 2 Bn A&SH who used Buffaloes at 2am on the 24th and 2 Bn Gordons using Stormboats. Following that, LVTs were used as a ferrying service for heavy equipment until the bridges were constructed.
    Mick
     
  15. ted angus

    ted angus Senior Member

    Hi Mick, 1 platoon with HLI , 3 with A S H both in buffaloes, 2 platoon with Gordons in stormboats. Ted
     
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  16. Bedee

    Bedee Well-Known Member

    I like to see people actively helping people. Great
     
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  17. Kai_H

    Kai_H Member

    Hi,
    The Class 9 must be this one:
    Draghunt-Bridge, also called Twist Bridge:
    Class 9 Folding Boat Equipment (FBE) Bridge
    Constructed by 8 Corps Troops Engineers
    Length: 1320 Feet or 1440 Feet? (did they changed the bridge)
    The bridge was started at H+11, that is at 1 PM on March 24th, and was finished after ten hours.
    Location: at Wardt / Vahnum
    GPS: 51°42'12.8"N 6°27'28.2"E

    Never heard about a Footbridge north of Wesel. Do have more informations about it?
    Kai
     
  18. Bedee

    Bedee Well-Known Member

    From War diary 193 Field Ambulance

    25 March
    HQ received warning order to be prepared to move at 1 hours notice after 1200 hrs. C.O. again spoke to personnel. Loading of lorries began in preparation for move. Left location at 082215
    at 1800 hrs and proceeded to Class 9 bridge over Rhine at area 1145. All vehicles including vehicles of 'B' Company crossed safely. Harboured night at Map ref 138453. Much enemy air
    activity over bridgehead. 'B' Company personnel without vehicles crossed Rhine on foot over bridge in area 1145 at 1800 hrs to reinforce 194 Field Ambulance at BISLICH. Major Wadsworth
    contacted 225 Para and 195 A.L. Field Ambulances and made arrangements for evacuation of casualties, then acting as liaison Officer until return to Unit on 26 March.

    But it doesnt say exactly foot bridge, but during line up some crossings, maybe to quick with my brains :rolleyes: They crossed without cars, maybe bridge was not fully operational.
     
  19. Kai_H

    Kai_H Member

    Thanks Bedee,
    That is of course possible, in photos you see pedestrians on the bridges from time to time.
    The Draghunt Bridge has had repeated problems with overloading, the bridge was broken twice.
    Kai
     

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