Ebay item 170294263077

Discussion in 'WW2 Militaria' started by airborne medic, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

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    1944 dated Parachute Regiment Helmet Arnhem D Day


    Just seen this on ebay if you fancy a punt......an 1944 airborne helmet with the name Frost inside......seller states the name looks like it's been in it since 1944......any thoughts anyone?????

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  2. cash_13

    cash_13 Senior Member

    Frost yep one way to bump up the price.....
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I like the way someone has convienently planted the seed of infomation in the way of a Q by Charles.

    I suspect the sellor knows all to well what he's selling due to the numerous other military items he's sold including a Denison Smock for over £600 ! Are they really worth that much ? o_O

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  4. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

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    1944 dated Parachute Regiment Helmet Arnhem D Day


    Just seen this on ebay if you fancy a punt......an 1944 airborne helmet with the name Frost inside......seller states the name looks like it's been in it since 1944......any thoughts anyone?????

    Item number: 170294263077[​IMG]

    Shaw this myself last night AM, seems to be a lot of Arnhem gear appearing at the momment.
     
  5. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

    Yes and always the former owner is either passed away or killed in action!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Please don't make any statements that could be considered libelous.
    The seller may take action against the forum if you do.
     
  7. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    Owen,

    Agree....of course the seller words his sale cleverly.....
     
  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    including a Denison Smock for over £600 ! Are they really worth that much ? o_O
    Gone are the days when a decent Denison Smock could be had for £20-30 at the Army surplus Andy, that's about average for WW2 ones we see now.

    Really must stop thinking about Army surplus shops from my yoof... I may start crying at the thought of EK1s for a fiver and Party badges for £3.50 in a huge cardboard box :D.
     
  9. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    On 16-Jan-09 at 20:12:44 GMT, seller added the following information:I may with draw helmet and reseach it more after Charlies information as the naming looks to be 100% genuine


    Q: Hi, As far as I know, there were only 4 people called Frost serving in Para Reg in 1944.One was killed in June 44, one killed in August 44, one killed in Sept 44, & the fourth was Lt. Col (later Maj.Gen.)John Dutton Frost,C.O. 2Para at Arnhem.He was a big guy, so 7 1/2 helmet size sounds about right.My Dad served with him from 1941 to 1943, & then again in he late 50s/early 60s. Hope the info may be of some use, Charlie. 16-Jan-09 A: thankyou very much for that all the best Paul
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Adam,

    I sold nearly all my Iraqi kit and other Army crap picked up along the way last year for around £1,700 in the end. I had a spare room full of stuff. I've kept my original maps though of where and when I was and my troop dets etc.

    Something tells me I'm going to regret selling all that kit now :lol:

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  11. Stevin

    Stevin Member

  12. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Army crap
    Surely you mean: 'Highly Collectable Modern Military Antiques'? ;)

    If this guy really has got the Frost's helmet I wouldn't be surprised if he withdrew it! Good luck to him if it proves genuine, though presumably it's a near-impossible task to match a lid to a surname with real certainty?

    Direct link:
    1944 dated Parachute Regiment Helmet Arnhem D Day on eBay, also Helmets Hats, World War II 1939-1945, Militaria, Collectables (end time 20-Jan-09 21:04:07 GMT)

    And some of the pictures as eBay don't seem to keep old listings for as long as they did - maybe someone here will have an inspiration from them.
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  13. Elven6

    Elven6 Discharged

    Adam,

    I sold nearly all my Iraqi kit and other Army crap picked up along the way last year for around £1,700 in the end. I had a spare room full of stuff. I've kept my original maps though of where and when I was and my troop dets etc.

    Something tells me I'm going to regret selling all that kit now :lol:

    Cheers
    Andy

    I think those homeless Vietnam War Vets in the States are regretting it more. :lol:

    Maybe I missed something, but what's the significance of the "Frost" Helmet?
     
  14. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I think those homeless Vietnam War Vets in the States are regretting it more. :lol:

    Hopefully I won't fall on such unfortunate times :)

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  16. Elven6

    Elven6 Discharged

    I'm not a expert in parchutting by an means but I found this,

    Lieutenant-Colonel John Frost

    Once again the thrill of falling, the great relief of feeling the harness pulling and that highly satisfactory bounce as the canopy filled with air. The rigging lines were slightly twisted, needing a vigorous pull on the lift webs to bring me round and leave me free to enjoy the feeling of floating down. Following this came the fear of injury on hitting the ground; a last feverish pull as I touched down and then a resounding bang on the back of my helmet told me that all was well.

    Not exactly sure if this "bang" is common but perhaps it would have left some sort of a marking on his helmet?

    Andy: Of course not, I apologize if you got a negative "vibe" from that comment, wasn't really my intention to do so. I was really just trying to mock the general availability of Vietnam combat gear in many Army Surplus stores in the States, at least the ones I was shown and heard of.
     
  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Not really he could have been referring to his head banging on dirt. Just call me a sceptic :D

    No offence taken and on this rare ocassion I knew what you ment ;)

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  18. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    Just a thought guys.....wouldn't an officer and a gentleman have initials rather than just a name.....in my day most of my kit was marked 852 and then my surname no initials....also was it common in WW2 for ORs to use their last three????

    BTW Mrs Frost is still alive and I have been in contact with her in the past but don't think I should ask her she knows anything about this helmet.....
     
  19. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    If the helmet really is what it purports to be it would be nice if it could go to the Para Museum where it really belongs.

    I can understand the requirements for selling, if you need the cash.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  20. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    Hi,
    Just read this thread ,does the seller give any history of this item because I`m no expert but did`nt John Frost become a POW ?(Everyone seems to be assuming he is the original owner however as stated there are a number of possibilities) He would not have retained his helmet in captivity and by the time he was released and recieved a replacement would`nt that have been post-war.The name Frost does conjure one well known associate was it his?or would we like to think it is his?Who ever it belonged to , and it does seem a geniune issue item, it belonged to a bloody braver man than I. No expert on this, like I said back to you Airborne chaps
    Regards
    Verrieres
    [​IMG]Similar label Similar Helmet sold recently for £520 no name no association!
     

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