Hamburg

Discussion in 'The Brigade of Guards' started by borneo72, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. borneo72

    borneo72 Junior Member

    Which battalion(s) of the Irish Guards were in Hamburg at the end of hostilities ?:confused:
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    WO 171/5147 2 Irish Guards 1945 Jan.- Dec.

    WO 171/5148 3 Irish Guards 1945 Jan.- Dec.

    According to the war diaries at Kew the above are the only possibilities. I don't have the IG history yet but I'll ask someone who knows.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I have their history in front of me now.
    2 & 3 IG formed the 'Irish Group'.
    They were fighting together armour & infantry.
    page 577.

    On 2nd May the Irish Group reached Estorf and Ohlendorf....
    The Group halted at Estorf.

    That's all.
    No mention of Hamburg but Estorf is rather close by.
     
  4. borneo72

    borneo72 Junior Member

    Many thanks Andy & Owen. Will keep digging !
     
  5. Historic Steve

    Historic Steve Researching 21 Army Group/BAOR post VE day

    My research is strictly post May 45...2nd and 3rd Battalions Irish Guards were part of the 5th Guards Armoured Brigade of the Guards Armoured Division command 30th Corps on the Cuxhaven Peninsular not Hamburg at the end of WW2 and was renamed 5th Guards Brigade in Jun 45 of the Guards Division and went south to the Köln/Bonn area command 1st Corps District the 3rd Battalion Irish Guards was merged with 2nd Battalion Irish Guards who moved to Estorf Kaserne Vansbek Hamburg renamed St Patrick’s Barracks in Mar 46 returning to UK Nov 46...thanks go to Diane from this forum who has helped put this together and hope this helps
     
  6. borneo72

    borneo72 Junior Member

    Many thanks Steve, and to Diane for the information.
     
  7. Historic Steve

    Historic Steve Researching 21 Army Group/BAOR post VE day

    2nd Battalion Irish Guards who moved to Estorf Kaserne Vansbek Hamburg renamed St Patrick’s Barracks in Mar 46 returning to UK Nov 46

    Update - Have now found that 2nd Battalion Irish Guards were still in Hamburg Mar 47 command Hamburg District winning the football knock out competition
    Best regards
    Steve
    History is a mystery and only as good as those who wrote it down
     
  8. Welbourn

    Welbourn Member

    ........sorry for tacking on to Hamburg thread - but were 1st Black Watch in Hamburg during the winter of 1945??
     
  9. Historic Steve

    Historic Steve Researching 21 Army Group/BAOR post VE day

    1st Battalion Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) were not far away in Buxtehude on the Cuxhaven Peninsular command 154th Infantry Brigade of 51st (Highland) Infantry Division moving to Hesedorf north of Rotenburg May 46
    Best regards and Happy New Year
    Steve
     
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  10. Welbourn

    Welbourn Member

    Thank you - I believe my late father would have been there at that time with 1st BW
     

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